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    Finding an Editor

    I'm sure this is a common theme for new writes - "I can't afford editor".

    And I'm sure the common reply is, "You can't afford NOT to have an editor!"

    So for those of us who don't have $1,000 to throw after something that may or not ever generate that kind of income - any advice? Is there such a thing as a legitimate writer's proofreading exchange?

    There must be so many authors out there who run into this obstacle.



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    One solution is to find critique partners. You trade your work with another writer and provide him feedback in exchange for his feedback. A lot of people post requests for critique partners on the Agent Query and QueryTracker forums. You could start there. Be aware, though, that a good critique partner should do more than proofread. You want someone who will look at such things as POV, plot development, sentence structure and flow, etc.

    In general, a critique partner won't take your work to the same level as a professional editor, but it's a good start. Proofreading is only a tiny function of good editing. A professional editor will help you with story development, spelling, syntax, grammar, POV, dialogue, narrative, the use of metaphor and simile, and more. All of that takes expertise and lots of time--time to read the work carefully, time to possibly remap the storyline, time to analyze the writer's use of language, etc. That's why a professional editor isn't free.

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    I think Oberon charges $30 an hour. Go hit him up.

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    Good grief, have you been asleep during this horrible Obama economy, Mutt? Prices have risen considerably. It's $40/hour now.

    Anyway, Matthew's looking NOT to pay. I agree with Jeanne, Matthew. I think you look for a person whose writing you admire, who you're convinced knows what they're talking about when it comes to writing. They can clearly explain to you why something is good or bad in writing. Or...perhaps you become a writing team. As they say, two heads are better than one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Oberon View Post
    Good grief, have you been asleep during this horrible Obama economy, Mutt? Prices have risen considerably. It's $40/hour now.
    Horrible economy? You realize the stock market just hit record highs and unemployment is at 5-year lows? You might need to reinvest your 401K if it's not making any money.

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    But what is the money worth, Mutt? Why do you think everyone's running to gold, silver, and other commodities? What difference does it make if you have a whole lot of nothing?

    I mean, I suppose there's an advantage to it because I'm paying off loans with cheap money, but man...I look at Greece and Spain, and it's like the Democrats say, "Yeah! That's the way America should go!" They're implementing more government spending, more taxes, more, more, more, just when we should be saying "Whoa!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Oberon View Post
    I mean, I suppose there's an advantage to it because I'm paying off loans with cheap money, but man...I look at Greece and Spain, and it's like the Democrats say, "Yeah! That's the way America should go!" They're implementing more government spending, more taxes, more, more, more, just when we should be saying "Whoa!"
    You should probably try to read a newspaper from later than 2007.

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    Well, I don't need a newspaper to tell me my money doesn't buy nearly what it did since 2008. My grocery bill has gone up 50% easy. I just bought a used car - prices were up about 40%. It's not like this is real difficult to see, Mutt. Or do you just disregard reality in favor of what you see in the newspapers and on TV?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Oberon View Post
    Well, I don't need a newspaper to tell me my money doesn't buy nearly what it did since 2008. My grocery bill has gone up 50% easy. I just bought a used car - prices were up about 40%. It's not like this is real difficult to see, Mutt. Or do you just disregard reality in favor of what you see in the newspapers and on TV?
    If you read a newspaper you might realize your Republicans have controlled the House since 2010, which means they control the purse strings. You might have also heard about that whole sequester mess, which is cutting spending, not increasing it.

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    Aaah, no, Mutt...the sequester was not a cut. There's NEVER a cut in ANYTHING, just reductions in the rate of growth. And it was Obama's plan anyway. HE'S the one who came up with idea, then tried to pin its implementation on the Republicans.

    The Republicans are hardly "mine". I wish Boener would find a home in the deep blue sea. I'm sick to death with him trying to "compromise" with these third-world socialists who seek to destroy America and freedom and replace it with government run "security". To tell you the truth, I have difficulty telling the difference between Republicans and Democrats nowadays. There's barely a question of bankrupting American; they simply argue about how to do it. Even today, I heard some Republican saying how Obamacare needs some "tweaking". Good grief, that hellish monstrosity needs repealed, abolished, quenched and destroyed, never to rise again, and the sooner the better.

    I am solid Tea Party. I want the over-spending to STOP. NOW. I don't want reductions in the rate of growth, I want ELIMINATION of expenditures. I want to abolish the Department of Education...it's just a giant lobby entity, and even school kids know the appropriate term for when a national government attempts to "educate" the populace. I want the Department of Energy to go away...the whole purpose of its existence is "to reduce our dependence on foreign oil", and it's failed utterly and miserably...heck, just the fact Jimmy Carter started it should be reason enough dismantle it. I want to role back government financial responsibility to constitutional mandates and nothing else.

    There is nothing wrong with America or its economy that a double-dose of freedom wouldn't heal double-quick.

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