In my first novel, two of the main characters lose their virginity at relatively young ages (for some). When the main character, a male, loses his virginity at the age of 12, there are two camps;
cute and child pornography. in this case cute outweighs kid porn.
However, when his sister discovers herself sexually (based on my own experience, names changed to protect the innocence) at the age of 11, there is one camp;
"Dude, you're f-ed up, see a doctor."
The passage was cut considerably, leaving the details to the imagination and gave a similar result, yet leaning deeper into kid porn. Further editing and again the same result. Both situations are important to the story and we (hopefully) have all been there.
So, which is worse---stating directly and clearly, or allusion?
I don't care if the church burns my writing, but being on an FBI wanted list is another story. How much do we leave to the 'Theater of the Mind'?
(Sorry, not posting the passage due to the obvious.)
I don't blame anyone for not replying. Do I care what you think of me? May be or not. I'm dropping the entire scene, it may be just a bit much...and NO there were no overt details, just two kids under the porch exploring each other and overheard by the main character. The scene has changed to "What were you doing down there? You two are filthy, go wash up and we can go out and get a burger or something." Chickening out, I know, but this book has gone from 'crude and rude criminal how to manual' to the story of one guy's struggle with 'guilt' among other things. Originally it was very unfriendly with few or no laughs. A difficult read, even for me. So, back burner or just plain burn it. :-D
]I don't blame anyone for not replying. Uhhmm...only 11 people have viewed your question. Most are probably like me, they don't know the answer.
Nothing "cute" about 11- and 12-year-olds having sex; so, with that in mind, I really couldn't answer your question.
I understand Jena, but it does occur. I also agree with the Tinman, there most likely is no answer. It was NOT written to upset or bring on the negative. It was just a crazy idea from a wonderful memory that is now no longer in print and archived in my head and hers. Innocence, loss of, and discovery was the point that has become obtuse. I'm almost sorry I mentioned it. You people are great, I am learning alot from you and I love you for it. THANK YOU, ARIGATO GOZAIMAS, VIELEN DANKE, MERCI BEAU COUPS, TANTE GRAZIE and MIL GRACIAS! Always feel free to shoot me down or prop me up. I'm my own worst critic so anything negative you have to say will be mild in comparison.
I would challenge anyones frame of mind who considers sex at 12 as cute. That's wrong.
One of the real headscratchers in publishing is that a scene like this would be accepted in mainstream fiction but would invite the cops in and an Amazon rejection if it were published as erotica.
No, it's not cute. If they were five, it might be cute...sorta, but at 11 and 12, not cute. But, you could still play it off as innocent. The MC that overhears/witnesses it can overhear certain things that are being said, and then get indignant at the two of them. It could still be included. This way, you establish your MCs personality by his/her reactions.
Sorry, I lived it. BUT you are right and once again, your opinions welcomed and well recieved. Please continue.
I'd flesh it out without worrying about investigators coming to arrest me. I agree with Jeana and Avonne. There is a fine line between "curiosity" and it only becomes "pornographic" when the sexual act(s) are/is depicted in a manner wherein some observers find it provides them with orgasms.
Sexual intercourse between tweens [the age you've decided upon] is inappropriate and legal authorities would most likely file criminal charges against their legal guardians/parents.
When two minors engaged in felacio on a school bus recently, they were both sent to reform school and their parents were also subjected to child protective services' removal of other children in their homes.
Last edited by Robin Teeter; 09-02-2011 at 04:58 AM.