Noble House Publishers DEFINITELY scam! |
Author: Arno (---.pp.htv.fi)
Date: 04-22-03 13:02
Hiya all,
I have confirmation of what you all probably already knew or at least suspected.
I was on the phone with ILP and they told me that they had started some kind of co-operation with Noble House Publishers supposedly to give poets the chance to "publish outside the USA and in a different form".
Check on my website www.poetryin-e-motion.com for all the details. Journal of stupidity, Poetry scam(s), Part I-IV.
Delete your poetry from poetry.com!
Cheers!
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Author: Billy Cryer (---.hot.rr.com)
Date: 04-23-03 12:18
Wretch!! Well, like the millions of others who have been fooled into thinking we were something exceptional, I'll erase my email from Mr. Hillary and gracefully sit back down. I'm beginning to wonder if poetry.com is the biggest hoax ever contrived on the face of the planet.
Maybe the others were something exceptional, but getting ripped off doesn't make me feel all that special. Maybe I'll vent my disillusionment by writing a poem and sending it in. I'll call it "Why Noble House is a Scam." They will probably send me a letter saying, "Congratulations! Your poem "Why Noble House is a Scam" has been selected to be published in our next volume, Sounds of the Soul. You can buy Sounds of the Soul for the small price of $300.99...." It wouldn't surprise me, Ha ha.
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Author: cheryl (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: 04-24-03 09:29
thank you, i was very disalussioned into believing i had really acomplished something but when i tried to ask questions by hitting the reply; the address doesn't exist. i feel such a fool.
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Author: Chris (---.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net)
Date: 04-24-03 10:27
i recieved an email from noble house today, and was curious on how anyone from the UK would have read MY "poetry that i have published in the United States". Arno,I went to your web page and read what you said about ILP and was just wondering what ILP was and how i could contact them to get my stuff off of poetry.com. also thank you for checking on the Noble House thing, i almost had my dad buy me a copy! feeling a little salty.
xoxo
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Author: Euterpe (---.rev.o1.com)
Date: 04-24-03 16:14
I just received the e-mail from Noble House. Maybe I should just write up something about some "publisher" scamming for money and send it back to be "published"...good idea?
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Author: Erika (---.lafayt01.tn.comcast.net)
Date: 04-24-03 18:25
Hey! I got my letter today. Since I'm a little new to the publishing world, I was sooooo excited. Talk about 'pissed' when I found out it was a scam. It's the 2nd time I've been scammed, and I'm starting to wonder if there is any way to actually be published for real!
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Author: Jeff (---.access.ntelos.net)
Date: 04-24-03 18:41
I got one of these e-mail's today too--I don't know any of you by the way but hey, haha. I actually came across this site when trying to find out if the Noble House Publishers was a scam or not on google.com and this is what I got. Anyway, I figured it was bull because in the e-mail they kept calling me Jeffrey and although that's my real name in full, no one calls me Jeffrey, but Jeff instead. The only time I have ever had a poem of mine published or submitted anywhere using Jeffrey is on poetry.com so I figured, the two had to be connected.
Anyway, all I have to say is NEVER pay money to have your poem published. Get one of those Poets Market books from your local bookstore--they're good. And find the publishers who release your works to the public for free. As the old quote goes, "There's no money in poetry and there's no poetry in money either."
Thanks for helping me figure out this was yet another scam.
Black Ribbons afire!
Jeff from Virginia
geocities.com/scab_da_radical
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Author: Nicholas (---.gln-eres.charterpipeline.net)
Date: 04-24-03 19:36
I also just recently got this letter from Mr. Hillary, coincidentally a fewweeks after first posting my poem on poetry.com...
However, I see nothing that requests that I pay to have my poem included in their publication. Should I be looking forward to that "wrinkle" shortly? I realise it would cost me $25 to buy the book in which poem will purportedly be featured, but the suggestion was clear that the poem would be included, regardless of whether I purchased the book or not.
I've submitted the poem, and we'll see what happens...unless one of you has some info to which I should be privy?
Pleased to share my work with others, saddened that there are those with little interest save the fattening of their purses...
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Author: Gary Kessler (---.dialsprint.net)
Date: 04-24-03 19:52
The scam is that the only people they sell the books to are the folks who have poems in the book. (Just like the only people who pay any attention to poems sent to poetry.com are those sending the poems.) They must put a whole load of poems in each book, because the scam must be profitable--it's been going on for years and years.
One question (in Dr. Phil style) to everyone out there who suspect this and poetry.com are scams but who still give them their credit card numbers. What were you thinking?
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Author: Lauren Weiss (---.26.25.218.Dial1.NewYork.Level3.net)
Date: 04-24-03 20:02
I got the letter today too. I thought it was real, and was very happy to get published. But as I was reading, they just said my name way too much. It became kind of creepy, so I searched for Noble House Publishing on google and found this site. I'm really glad I did! I was about to take out my credit card and buy a book! How can I get my poetry taken off of poetry.com? I have a lot on there. Right now I'm saving it to floppy disks so I can take it to a REAL company!
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Author: Terra (---.dialup.mindspring.com)
Date: 04-24-03 20:10
I got an email from Nobel House today, too. I had a feeling it was a scam so I decided to look into. Thank heaven I looked here first.
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Author: pleso (---.tnt2.bne1.da.uu.net)
Date: 04-24-03 21:34
Hi,
I'm so glad that I found this site through google search. I too received the letter from Noble House Publishing and also have posted a poem (in 2000) I think on poetr.com. It was selected for 'publication' but I didn't order the book as I thought then that it sounded dodgy. I almost fell for the Noble House thing though, but I'm very glad that I found this discussion board in the nick of time!
I think it is disgusting, though not suprising, that sites run scams like this. It is extremely difficult to achieve any recognition as a poet and therefore all the more dispicable that these people are scamming writers with false hope of their dreams being realised. It has made me terrilby sad reading these postings and learning of the excitement and joy that has been negated through learning of the scam, especially as I too am one of those people.
All I can say is to keep trying to get your work out there through legitimate avenues (as hard as that is) and don't let money hungry ****wits who don't have a clue about the true value of your art hinder your ambitions.
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Author: Mashal (---.client.attbi.com)
Date: 04-24-03 23:33
it's funny, I thought the same thing hon. Now i just want to cry!
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Author: Mashal (---.client.attbi.com)
Date: 04-24-03 23:36
hey,
I did the same thing! I am glad I found this site.
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Author: Jerrye (63.160.86.---)
Date: 04-25-03 00:37
Chuckle!!..Like the rest of you, I thought "oh, how nice!"except...Clue number one: Over a year ago I submitted online to Poetry.com.Just in the past few weeks received in the mail a copy of that poem and solicitation to include it in current book.Since this is the ONLY site where I submitted a poem,I was curiously aware,somehow it must have been directed thru them to Noble House.
It seems the books these people sell include just about ALL poems submitted.My question: Since we,the poets,keep the copyright,shouldn't we be entitled to some of the profit from the book if we are included?Shouldn't we be the payee and not the payer? Also tonight,as an afterthought, in reading the Artist's bio,realize there is a charge of $25US to include that with poem.
Realizing it was probably a hoax,the following poem was submitted to them.I will share it with you all.
Shamoo
Shamoo shame on you,Shamoo
Shamoo,lame of you,Shamoo
Shant you sham,Shamoo
Moo!Sham!
Maybe we should all Spam the Sham??
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Author: Tenesh Ramsunder (---.tnt22.nyc9.da.uu.net)
Date: 04-25-03 02:55
i got an e-mail from noble house and i boguht the book with the biographicl info for like $80 do you tihnk i'll get the book with my poem in it.
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Author: pavel (62.231.22.---)
Date: 04-25-03 05:44
well, guys, you should keep a spam box with yahoo or something to have thing sort of thing delivered right into the "Bulk" folder...
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Author: jennie (---.dialsprint.net)
Date: 04-25-03 07:09
how disheartening to think that your poem amongst so many others was noticed and selected for publication, only to find out it was selected to simply fatten someone's wallet. check out Writer's Market...you should be able to get at any bookstore. it lists tons of legitimate publishers and useful info about getting published.
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Author: Anna Kortesalmi (---.it.helsinki.fi)
Date: 04-25-03 08:12
Hi Arno,
Thanks for this info; I suspected that it was a scam when Noble House asked to publish my poetry. I have to find out how to get ILP to take off my poetry from their website, as well.
Anyway; I wish you a relaxing rest of the spring and a happy vappu,
Anna Kortesalmi
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Author: unknown (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: 04-25-03 08:31
thank you so very much. i got letters and e-mails from poetry.com (aka The International House of Poetry or whatever) and i considered getting both books! i am so glad that there are honest people who are willing to tell others who have no clue whether it's a scam or not. thank you so much again. i can't believe that i almost helped out these disgusting companies make money when they don't deserve a thing!!!
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Author: Yvonne Tolentino (208.140.19.---)
Date: 04-25-03 09:13
I also submitted a poem to Poetry.com. As I was writing it, I was feeling a little strange. But I still pressed the enter button. A couple of weeks later, I too received their letter informing me that I won and I was also nominated for Poet of the Month along with 8 other poets. Excited and overjoyed because I have never won anything, I told all my friends about it. Then I received their letters and invitation to their Symposium. After all the excitement subsided, my guts again began to bother me. So I read everything in the correspondence and e-mails they sent. It was strange to me that for me to get my prize I would have to go to the Symposium and "pay" to get there. I thought to myself, If I "won" why should I have to pay? I let it go and did nothing. I was asked to send the Artist Proof with a biography ($25). I held on to it. By this time I was getting really bad vibs so I decided to do some checking. I found all sorts of sites indicating that Poetry.com was a big "scam". My guts no longer bothered me and I discarded all their correspondence and emails. But they continued to write and I continued to throw away. The correspondence finally stopped.
Today I received an email from Noble House Publishers. The first thing I did was check up on them, and I found this website. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones. All Poetry.com has from me is my poem but with no rights to use it, and today I will seek to find a way to delete my poem from their site. This also taught me a valuable lesson. Take the time to do some checking on things.
My heart goes out to all those fantabulous and wonderful poets out there who were ripped off by these unscrupulous and evil people.
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Author: Gary Kessler (---.dialsprint.net)
Date: 04-25-03 09:28
To respond to the question further up the line on whether a book bought from these folks for $80 will be delivered. Certainly it will. Just because Poetry.com and affiliates are scams doesn't mean they are illegal operations. Everything they are doing is quite legal--they just are setting everything up so that anyone who is so hopeful that she/he is easily mislead has no trouble misleading himself/herself. Poetry.com will continue to be pleased as punch to send you that $80 book you ordered (which, at best, cost them $15 to produce and distributed).
And to the question of whether or not you should share in the profit rather than pay to be published. Are you not understanding the scam in play here? Poetry.com sees nothing intrinsically valuable in the poems you send (and neither does anyone else in the publishing industry, because everyone there understands that Poetry.com doesn't pay any attention to the poems themselves). They only see you as someone so hopeful about getting your poems in print that chances are good you will pay outrageous bucks to fulfill that hope. And it must work. They are doing--and have been doing--a very good business off this scam for decades.
Try to understand. You aren't published when you send a poem to Poetry.com. You are duped.
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Author: Krissy (---.manass01.va.comcast.net)
Date: 04-25-03 15:56
I got one too...Sheesh, I'm glad I did a quick search to make sure it was a hoax. I figured that since it said waaaay too much about how I could buy this amazing book with hand crafted covers...blah...blah...BLAH, that it might be just a scam to get money from us. How do I go about deleting my poetry though? And did anybody else get a letter in the mail saying they were a semi-finalist or something? Much thanks :)! -=*Krissy
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Author: Kristy (---.209.125.67.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net)
Date: 04-25-03 16:50
Way back when I fist started writing again I even got a Bronze Medal from them! :-D However, the second I opened the mail from them I realized it was just a scam. I really wasn't upset. I just grinned and threw it away.
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Author: Michelle (---.abrcrn01.ga.comcast.net)
Date: 04-25-03 17:30
I am thoroughly upset to find this website. I have submitted two poems on behalf of my 9 year old daughter. Her poem, which is very good, was selected for publshing. All of our family were sooo excited about her accomplishment. I have tried to check up on Poetry.com and ILP. I looked them up on the BBB (Better Business Bureau) website and the only thing mentioned was that some customers had a hard time getting their books that they had ordered due to "publishing delays". This did not seem like such a big problem to me. Anyways, I sent in an order but I never sent any money with it. I wanted to see exactly what would happen if I did that. I'm still waiting for a response.
I also received the Noble House email and I was kinda suspicious. I 'm glad I was because I came across this website. I was highly upset. This means that I will have to tell my daughter that her work probably won't be published...at least not at this time.
I'm not sure if any of you know of a site called 1stbooks.com but I found it while trying to check up on Noble House. I requested info about the publishing company and I'm waiting right now to find out what they have to say.
Don't give up your search for legimate publshing of your poems. It'll happen for you all.
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Author: ike (---.buf.adelphia.net)
Date: 04-25-03 17:32
A similar scam exists in amateur photography. A friend of mine paid 75 bucks for a volume that included one of his pictures. Looked nice but it was a coffee table book that normally would have sold for $45 at the most. Legal yes but ethical or moral - I don't think so. But what do I know- I think it's immoral to poison dandelions and perpetuate lethal green lawns. -ike
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Author: SAM (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: 04-25-03 20:57
I got my email today and at first was very excited about being selected for publishing. I thought poetry.com was to good to be true and it seem that I was correct. I'm glad that I did not send them any money. I'm also glad to know that we have honest people willing to expose those money hungry companies that take advantage of people time and talent. Keep looking and keep writing, don't be discouraged. I'm very grateful for this site...I'm not alone. Thanks guys.
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Author: Gary Kessler (---.dialsprint.net)
Date: 04-25-03 21:26
Just a couple of notes:
Several folks on the multiple strings going here on Poetry.com and affiliates said they had thought this was a respectable business because they checked with the Better Business Bureau and found few complaints. The BBB doesn't really go out of its way to collect and then reveal complaints on businesses. The BBB is sponsored by and paid for by the business community. Don't confuse it with an independent, unbiased consumer protection agency.
Also, 1stBooks mentioned above is a vanity self-publishing company. It won't take your writing career anywhere Poetry.com doesn't take it--it will just charge you more money to print (and to try to distribute) your work. It will, though, be less crass in trying to make you feel like you've been published and that your work is terrific. And Publish America, which is mentioned on a previous string, is little better in cost than 1stBooks and no better in complaints from previous clients than Poetry.com.
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Author: Jerrye (---.megagate.com)
Date: 04-25-03 22:32
A friend of mine was bragging on his 85 year old mother a few years ago about how she had won poets awards,etc.Money being no object to his family,the fact that her poetry had gotten recognition was the major thing.After seeing the "award",I realized that it was bogus.To her and her son, however, it was wonderful.
A niece of this same lady did a really wonderful thing.She compiled Aunt Mabel's Poems into a little booklet,printed with some small drawings and done on the computer.It was a beautiful little booklet.I received a copy as did anyone who knew about it.Her poems were quite insightful and sweet.I cherish the little book.
A nine year old's poems could easily be done into a booklet for posterity much the same.It would be worthy of bragging rights and could be enjoyed by anyone worthy of receiving a copy.Easy enough.It would boost her confidence in continuing her writing and expression.So what's wrong with sharing with a few? Who knows what could happen later?
And your money would be wisely invested in your child, not some scam artists.
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Author: Smurf (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: 06-24-03 03:01
Hello,
Thank you so much for writing this letter and posting it. My older sister is really into poetry and she just received a letter in the mail from Nobel House.SCAM.. lol
But anyways,they told her they were going to publish her poems in the UK. Its like... DUH! Ok.. shes a blonde. Me.. I know better. I believe that any ofter that is too good to be true, is just full of BS! But she called me up the other day and asked me to see what my daugher could find out, since she lives in England. See... my sister doesnt have the internet. I told her I could look.. and I saw this letter. THANK YOU so much.!!!! You really helped alot and saved her alot of hardship. I also found that message board, Scifi Minds. Alot of people, I guess , Are finding out the hard way.
Have a wonderful day!
God Bless
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Author: Stefanie (---.clsp.uswest.net)
Date: 06-24-03 15:58
I was thirteen and in middle school when I was first contacted by the International Library of Poetry. I'm twenty-two now, and just today (June 24, 2003) I received a letter from Noble House.
That first time, about nine years ago, not only did I submit my poem, including the biographical information, and buy the book (well, my parents bought it, but they were as excited about the whole deal as I was--what does a thirteen-year-old know about poetry scams, anyway?), but we bought a second copy of said book (A Sea of Treasures) and gave it to my middle school's library when I finished eighth grade.
I'm not quite so gullible anymore; although I kept receiving leters from ILP, and although I did send in several poems to their various contests and whatnot, I never sent them any more money.
When I got back from college about a month ago, I found an old ILP letter on my dresser, with the "publisher's proof," dated way back in the summer of 2000. That one, along with several prior "publisher's proofs," never got sent in, and I haven't sent anything else to them, or been contacted by them, since.
Therefore, I was immediately suspicious when I received the Noble House letter (after all, I've learned in my writing classes--I went to college for and received a BFA in creative writing--that poetry is *not* a very good seller, as far as bookstores are concerned), and even more suspicious when, as I searched google.com, I didn't find any references to Noble House as a publishing company, only as the name of other businesses.
Then I found this thread, and confirmed all my suspicions triple-fold. Now I'm off to see if there's anything, legally, that I might be able to do. I'm not in law school yet--applying to several at the moment, though--and I doubt that there's much even a trained lawyer could do, but it can't hurt to try, and maybe I can prevent some other poor thirteen-year-old from being let down in such a fashion.
Stefanie
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Author: Sara (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: 06-24-03 22:23
Ok I can sit down and come back to reality now, thanks so much for all the threads, I was JUST ABOUT to send in 45 bucks to these scam artists for my book. UM JUS KIDDIN. lol. I was like WOW my poem on its OWN page! AMAZING! Pssssh....well, upon checking on a website for this cool company I stumble upon this site!! THANKS AGAIN!
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Author: Nicole (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: 06-25-03 14:28
I got my letter in the mail yesterday, I had a poem published in an ILP anthology several years ago. We purchased three copies and I had my biographical information included for an extra cost. When the books came the page numbers were misprinted and we got ahold of TroubleShooters and got reimbursed for the two extra copies we bought due to the misprints. I was so proud of that poem and I'm still proud of it, I know ILP is a huge scam but I know my poem was great!!
Anyway, I got that Noble House letter and I'm not sending them a red cent!!
Thanks for this forum!!
Nicole }i{
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Author: Stefanie (---.clsp.uswest.net)
Date: 06-25-03 14:47
An interesting update of sorts:
I wrote down the ISBN of the book my poem is in (A Sea of Treasures) and the ISBNs and titles of all the other National Library of Poetry books that appeared on Amazon.com. Then I went to the Library of Congress homepage, and tried searching for the books using titles, ISBNs, and National/International Library of Poetry. The search came up with forty-nine different books. However, *none* of them were the book I own, that is currently sitting on my desk above my computer (A Sea of Treasures). I could not find that book, by ISBN, title, *or* under National/International Library of Poetry.
I don't know about anyone else, but I find that just the slightest bit fishy. I'm now off to go call ILP, to get the few poems I have up on poetry.com removed, and I'm going to ask them about this little descrepancy. Wonder what they'll say?
Stefanie
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Author: Michelle (---.direcpc.com)
Date: 06-28-03 13:29
If you would like to talk with a real publisher about publishing your poetry, contact Dave at the following address. He published my mother's poetry book. Tell him I sent you. Michelle Reed Abrajano
editor@elderberrypress.com
David W. St. John
Elderberry Press
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Author: Gary Kessler (---.dialsprint.net)
Date: 06-28-03 14:01
As has been noted on this discussion board before, Elderberry Press is an extremely expensive vanity press.
Going from Noble House to Elderberry would be out of the frying pan and into the fire (at additional expense).
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Author: Cameron (207.32.18.---)
Date: 07-02-03 15:35
Well as far as getting stuff taken off of poetry.com, I think I've been successful.
I just went into poetry.com after logging in, searched for my name, got the list of poems, chose one at a time, and simply "edited" it -- now my poems have a striking resemblence to eachother, having nothing but the word "blah" written over and over again. The sad part, of course, is that in a few weeks I'll get a letter "honoring" my piece of blah art.
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Author: Michael McAlexander (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: 07-02-03 22:42
I, too, have been had. I rather enjoyed being published, and was overjoyed when my two, yes (2), books came in. As I was reading some of the other poems, I began to speculate as to how the **** they got in there, but I was so naive, I didn't care. I mean, come on, I was PUBLISHED! Anyway, that was a long time ago, last year I think. I just now received the Noble House publishing letter, and I was very excited about this second publishing. My only concern now is: Am I going to get my copy of a book with my poem, on its own page? Or will that one not even come in? One other thing I did think about from the poetry.com publishing was how they changed the name of the album. Do you think that has something to do with the scam? This is so belittling and humiliating; I have people at work that want a copy of the book from Noble House, so I can sign my name next to it! All because I thought it was extraordinary, that they only have offices in London, Paris, and New York. Man, I am certainly going to look before I leap again. And all this time I thought I was building credibility by being published! I will try to remove my poems from the poetry.com. I will really get pissed if my copy from Noble House doesn't come in. Well, I hope that whoever reads this learns the lesson that we obviously all have learned the hard way- Don't judge a book by its cover. On another aspect, I am curious if I have any real talent at all with poetry. I would love to hear from someone [ if only one person ] on my poems. My email is listed above. All comments are welcome; honesty is preferred. Thanks, to all who have contributed to this listing.
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Author: Aurelia (---.nsw.bigpond.net.au)
Date: 07-08-03 03:24
I think I found the thread a bit too late; I wasn't aware it was a scam when I said okay to having my poems published. Glad to ahve found this place! I have 6 poems up at poetry.com and have had the usual 'semi-finalist' and 'poet of the year' drabble sent to me. I also got a letter from Noble House...I haven't sent any money yet, but I also can't find the URL for Noble House to take down my poem. Can anyone help me with this?
Aurelia
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Author: tecdavi in san antonio (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: 07-11-03 08:47
Dear Readers:
I dont know about you people but i never had to buy a book to get anything published. I have had two poems published with poetry.com, and one due in theatre of the mind. I didn't have to buy the book, I wanted to.
I know that my poetry is exceptional, and feel a little cheated that so many people would think its a scam. Of course they want to sell books! But I received publication and I didn't even have to pay for it. I am also being featured in who's who of american women and i didnt even buy that book...jeez get a grip.
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Author: Rob McAllister (---.prem.tmns.net.au)
Date: 07-13-03 07:03
I have been gettign letters and e-mails from poetry.com etc. for almost a year now and I am getting sick of it, someone should really get to the bottom of this thing and straighten it all out, and possibly file a class action against poetry.com. It is definently not right that they are doing this to people, I am glad that I could not afford to purchase any of the things that they offered! I know I wouldnt anyway! What a scam! Come to think of it, someone should start a forward e-mail denounceing poetry.com and noble house and all the rest of its affiliates! If someone is going to or has allready done this please send me a copy. If you would like to veiw my poems you can see them at poetry.com however I will probalby use camerons idea and change my poetry to "blah"
bye all!
R. J. McAllister
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Author: Alana Sinclair (---.auckland.clix.net.nz)
Date: 07-15-03 17:55
I am bitterly disappointed, as i like so many others believed my work was chosen because it was well written, and not because someone wanted to make a lot of money. I feel very foolish now, but i have got all my work in a folder, and i think your idea of making your own little book is lovely. I shall put together some lovely scrapbooks for my family and friends and like you say, give my work to people who really appreciate it.
I am proud of my poetry, and i am sure one day it will be published for everyone to enjoy. i am so glad to have found this site, and be beside others who have suffered the same disappointment. Thank you.
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Author: Alana Sinclair (---.auckland.clix.net.nz)
Date: 07-15-03 18:55
I have discovered a site that shall give you all the necessary information about these scams. It is www.poetrynotcom.tripod.com
I only wish i had found it earlier.
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Author: michael (---.mrgnhll.ca.charter.com)
Date: 08-02-03 16:09
all you ppl sayin that u got yer letters from noble house a couple weeks later, i got mine like 2 years later
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Author: michael (---.mrgnhll.ca.charter.com)
Date: 08-02-03 16:13
umm someone already did that. name:ted l. nancy. book:even more letters from a nut
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Author: michael (---.mrgnhll.ca.charter.com)
Date: 08-02-03 16:17
u can even search his name on poetry.com. you'll find everyone of his poems
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Author: AK (---.rev.o1.com)
Date: 09-18-03 23:31
i totally understand why you all feel this way. i had some free time and looked up NOble house online, and found this site. unlike most of you, it seems, i was published by four or five different companies, so i didn't think to associate NOble house publishing with poetry.com. It really seemed like finally i was geting somewhere outside of the us, which, if you think about it, is not realy known for great literature or arts, but i never go tmy book, theatre of mind, which was promised to be delivered "the beginning of summer 2003"
I'm just glad that i never went to their conventions, mainly cuz i couldn't afford them.
But, you must all also remember, that there is a real publishing company called noble house, and it is legitimate, so if you ever get a REAL letter, like i did, vs email, read through it before throwing it away-it might be the real thing
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Author: HollowHeart (210.195.42.---)
Date: 12-04-03 00:48
Oh my god, I just submitted a poem to Noble House like 5 minutes ago. I got curious because I`m not a poet and somehow, I got the letter. Someone else must have used my e-mail. So I checked and I found this site. Stupid frauds.
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Author: HollowHeart (210.195.42.---)
Date: 12-04-03 00:51
Well, I hope those jerks are happy. At least I won`t be cheated off my dollars cause I ain`t got any to spare. Being tight on me budget has some advantages sometimes. But having my ego being inflated one moment and deflated the next ain`t no fun. Someone should do something to shut that goddamm site.
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Author: Satu (---.piramk.fi)
Date: 12-04-03 09:57
Hello! I have never seen this site before, but now I just got yet another letter from Noble House. I did have my suspicions before, but i never looked up about Noble House on the net.... So, I was right. But, I have to say that I have bublished abot three poems in different books, but never paid anything. I have never even seen my poetry on these books (I live in Finland, and u cant find those books from the bookstores here, I guess), but i assume that they do exist, do they??!! I´m a bit confused. So if somebody could one more time explain this whole Noble House- poetry.com -thing, I would be so glad!
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Author: Bayard (---.bchsia.telus.net)
Date: 12-04-03 11:37
Wow, when i look at this from all of your perspectives, it looks like I'm another sucker to add to the list! I've already ordered 6 of the books from poetry.com! I was going to give them to family members as christmas presents. I guess this is a good lesson in humility, and my ego too has just been wholly deflated as far as my poetry is concerned. The thought that this was a scam did enter my mind, but my ego took over that suspicion! Yesterday I recieved an e-mail from Noble House as well, and decided to submit a poem with them without paying for a copy of the book. If they end up publishing it without my having paid anything, then I figure its still good exposure. They certainly aren't getting any more money from me, in any case, those b@st@rds!!
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Author: Maura (---.tnt5.syd2.da.uu.net)
Date: 12-04-03 14:25
Hi
Well I got a letter just now and knew for sure straight away that it was a scam....anyone who wants you to pay fro something ,in this case a volume of poetry, is usually a crook
Maura
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Author: Carol Walsh (---.618connect.com)
Date: 12-04-03 14:46
I submitted a poen in April and ordered the book it was to be printed in Theatre of my Mind.I charged it on my credit card and still have not received the book.
Carol Walsh
713 East Prairie St.
Jerseyville ,IL 62052
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Author: Vanessa Lebeau (---.qc.sympatico.ca)
Date: 12-04-03 15:30
Erika Rebelchick@awild.com
There is a way, A real contest with real things and no scamp present, I ahve been scammed by ilp and noble house and i have found a palce I am pretty sure is ok as it involved the sudent's(if ur a student, or else, they just contact you) school. And when you get published, the school name and year are stated. Also, i sent three poems in there. (they accept only 45% to be published) and only one got published and i am convinced.
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Author: Jennifer Nelson (---.nas1.tmn.ut.frontiernet.net)
Date: 12-04-03 15:30
I've just recieved another email from "Nigel Hillary". The latest scam is a new book called "Colours of the Heart".
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Author: Nicole (142.46.143.---)
Date: 12-04-03 17:55
Awwwww I did the same thing as all of you, I was "published" in Poetry.com's "Patterns of Life" anthology, and then I received this... I wasnt going to buy, but they are still publishing my work and Im not gaining anything so I sent an email saying I should be paid or at least get a copy of the book and then the postmaster said i couldnt send it, so i looked it up on google and VOILA! here I am. i'm so disappointed. Writing is my thing, i'm 15, so when I got those letters I was so happy and everyone was proud cause they said I was really oung to be published and now its all a scam! Do they even print these books to those who dont write in them? or do they prey on egos? Yes you are published! Come buy the book youre published in cuz noone else will! aww gosh when I got the email I was like, this isnt right, the other one i could understand cuz it was a contest but why should I let them make money off of me??
Now I feel bad, I was hopeful :) oh, well. all writers hit roadblocks.
Nicole
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Author: nikki (---.ipt.aol.com)
Date: 12-04-03 18:10
i got the same email tonight so decided to submit them a different one
there was a publishers named noble
who promised ur poem would go globle
but the whole thing is lies
they tell porky pies
i think a court case could be very probable
So Mr Hillary you know what you can do
what you say is a pile of poo
if you think u are wise
then look in my eyes
cos i will say to u "sir **** you!!!"
I suggest u all do the same
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Author: Vanessa Lebeau (---.qc.sympatico.ca)
Date: 12-04-03 21:33
I have received that e-mail to from the hilary person. I have decided to warn everybody I meet to be carefull for spam. Here in this site, you can learn lots of things about scamming with poetry. Also a list of all the scam sites. http://www.poetryin-e-motion.com/ And also Arno had experiences with ILP and talks about it. very good to read. He is a spam hater and we should do the same!!!
~Vanessa
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Author: Sue (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: 12-04-03 22:15
Hi,
I live in the UK and like allof you I got an Email from Mr Hilary.
We have a few places here that deal with this sort of thing and I am going to be making enquiries with them later today (its currently 4am here). I have emailed an enquiry to them.
These people have international connections and hate scams. They are the Office of Fair Trading http://www.oft.gov.uk/default.htm
Maybe if enough people contact them they will do as you all ask and do something about this?
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Author: SJ (220.247.200.---)
Date: 12-04-03 00:09
absolutely right. I had suspected foul play and i got my confirmation from this sight. Thanks!
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Author: Melina (62.215.3.---)
Date: 12-04-03 00:43
Total ****heads.
(pardon my language)
I just got an email, and decided to check out the sender before i opened it, and found this site through google, like many others here.
Total foul play. Poetry.com should be shot...
Did anyone get those emails inviting yuo to the festival of achievement thing, where you would be awarded with a silver cup for being an outstanding poet, for the mere price of like $250 or something???
(and now, in the style of Dr Seuss)
Scam scam scam
you are a scam
I do not like stupid scam
I do not like them stupid scam
I will not pay you for a book
I will not give you a second look
I do not like you silly scam
sham sham sham.
Melina
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Author: Iris Gerlach (---.lear.com)
Date: 12-04-03 00:36
Hello
I am a german writter (book: 'Einmal Mehr'- Gedichte, www.amazone.de, www.bod.de) and received a mail from Noble house today too. Before I tell you my bad experience about them.......I once published the poem: 'love on first sight' with poetry.com. It is still on their page.
Thank god I found my own way to publishe all my poems in Germany with www.bod.de as book on demand! Sorry my english is not so good, I hope you still understand.
PLEASE never forget that you as a poet should not have to pay publishers a high amount for publishing your poem - If so they should at least pay you a certain amount back after publishment of a book including your poem.. Many, many people unfortunetely believe in this...strange publishers ;-(
I recommend to you: Publish your poems as book on demand and if you dont have enough poems to gather them in a book already then register on as many Website as you can and try also to find other poets who perhaps want to work with you and publish .-) I am now planning to publish my poems also in english translation as abook on demand. Additionally I always give other poets or artists a chance to show their work on my webpage and they do not have to pay any money to me. I have now showed pictures of a artist from USA on my page. So dont hesitate to contact me ;-) .
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A while ago I have send a pooem to poetry.com and they wanted to publish it, also month later received a invitation to a Hoel in Wahsington where they had a Festival for all poets and wanted to give me a silver bowl. I did not do this all of youse because I wohld have end up paying at least 500 DOllars for a flight ticket, hotelroom.....I Told them to send my price which I won to my parents in the states. They informed me that I would have to pay for the shipment. Nothing happended nomore.
Forget abou them! ;-(((
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Author: Jane Myriad (---.hants.gov.uk)
Date: 12-04-03 00:01
I can't believe I actually decided to check this noble publishers out on google.com. when i couldn't find an actual publishers site I got suspicious and then i found this, luckily. I didn't send off money for the first poem that they said would be published and i did not order a book but i did authorise for the book to be published. will it? I couldn't believe that it was just a scam and it made me feel really bad about the world for just a few minutes. i mean - trying to get money out of poetry, poetry which is often really personal? Anyway, just like the others I just want to say that don't get disheartened by this stupid scam. I'm glad I found this site - I'm really gullible and believed poetry.com until I got the email from noble house publishers. All the best to aspiring poets.
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Author: L (---.design.dundee.ac.uk)
Date: 12-04-03 00:22
I received my letter from poetry.com a few weeks back. I post on another poetry forum and when one of the posters there said she was published, I was intrigued and decided to enter too. (It may be cruel, but if she could do it, i could do it too.) And I am very happy that they decided to publish me.
But I won't send any money. And when Noble House sent me the email, the happiness returned. And it is staying. Yes, I am disillusioned after reading this thread, but I won't send them any money, so where's the harm?
I'm sure people have been scammed, and I am sorry. But let others just bask in the feeling of achievement. We're good at pretending.
www.lovingyou.com/library/
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Author: ANNA (---.pctc.liv.ac.uk)
Date: 12-04-03 00:24
Hi all,
As I have read on different threads on different sites is that they actually DO publish the book. If you order a copy, your poem will be on the first (?) page, but the rest of the book is similar to everybody. So, someone else won't even be finding your poem in there, as the first page is different for everybody. At least thta is what I heard. I don't believe i paying money, and \i have never seen a book of this publisher ion a bookstore...
But everybody is entitled to their own opinion, just try not to be gullible!
Good luck all of you
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Author: Natasha Dumas (---.tnt9.syd2.da.uu.net)
Date: 12-04-03 00:47
Hi Nicki,
After having read other message boards it seems that they have a generic book already published and then glue in your poem as the first page when you order it. So everyone who orders the book has their poem printed on the first page. It's shocking stuff and I'm sorry it's happened to you but it will serve as a valuable lesson. If it seems too good to be true, chances are it is.
Best of luck with your writing.
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Author: Rob (---.gla.ac.uk)
Date: 12-04-03 00:54
Like so many people I was quite chuffed when I found out I was a 'semi-finalist', but having written my poem in 10mins I was pretty sure it was a hoax. And when I got the e-mail today from Mr Hillary I checked Noble House on google and almost all of the results were for a website detailing the scam. I can't believe that people are actually making money out of this. I'm glad my instincts were right with this one, but feel very annoyed that Noble House is treating so many poets with such behaviour. Thanks for all the honest people out there who put their own experiences on the web about this company!
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Author: chris scates (---.137.8.90.manx.net)
Date: 12-05-03 15:13
YEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Author: Christine (---.25.47.28.Dial1.NewYork1.Level3.net)
Date: 12-05-03 15:48
Ok, people, you seriously ALL need to stop it with the Noble House scam. Yes, it's a bad scam, oh no, how terrible. But I get 30 emails a day from one damn post I made and I can't stop it! People should just read the info, say "Oh good thing I didn't buy the book!" (to themselves) and move on. If you bought the book, well then you're an idiot and sadly scammers will get you for the rest of your life.
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Author: Rosie (---.dialup.optusnet.com.au)
Date: 12-05-03 19:14
Woo hoo, dont I feel like an Idiot lol I just got an e-mail from Noble House... Alas, I feel like a popped Balloon at the moment, but at least I dont feel like a fool anymore.. and whoever that was with the creative idea of replacing their poetry with "blahh" thanks... I just updated ALL my poetry on there hehehe, perhaps I will FINALLY be removed, its been a pain in the ass trying for some many years.
Thanks for opening up my eyes guys and glas, and I wish you all the best, just dont let some wanka's get you down
R
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Author: Holli (---.30.254.174.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net)
Date: 12-05-03 19:59
I am sure that your poetry /is/ exceptional, but there is proof that it is a scam: Several attorneys and individuals are currently looking for poets who have been defrauded or displeased with the service from the International Library of Poetry (poetry.com and poets.com) also known as the National Library of Poetry, Poetry.com, the International Society of Poets, the International Poetry Hall of Fame, and/or Watermark Press
this is not all. my father entered the contest, and he recieved his book that he ordered, however, it was lost when when we moved. he tried to order another copy, only to find that the book his work was \'published\' in never really existed. just recently he sent in another poem, in which all he wrote was \'poo\', and he was also told that this poem was a winner. Do you really want your art to be next to someone\'s joke?
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Author: Joan (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: 12-05-03 20:54
Well I got my email today saying they read my poem which was "Published" in the US. First of all, as all of you, my poem was NOT "Published" in the US...all I did was post it on a website. little did I know. Well, I wrote another little poem that I think they'll love. :)
I came upon a site one day
with nothing else to do
So I decided to write a favorite poem
to share from me to you
Your site seemed so interesting
and I thought i'd give it a try
So I did my thing and hit submit
and here's my reason why
I like to write, as many do
and share my thoughts aloud
It's fun and it's exciting
and it makes a person proud
But now you took advantage
of people including me
you can kiss my a$$ and go to hell
with your Noble House poetry.
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Author: JoAnn (---.c3-0.avec-ubr15.nyr-avec.ny.cable.r)
Date: 12-05-03 21:06
You're only 15? Consider yourself lucky, most people don't learn this lesson until way later in life. Good for you for figuring it out! I'm 32 and it took me a few days and some research.... I should have known better.
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Author: Joan (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: 12-05-03 21:07
By the way I thought i'd share one of my poems with you all. You all seem sincere and i'm sure showing you will do no harm. I wrote them when my cat passed away this November 2,2003. The following is what they (Noble House)asked me to write as a publishers note. I'm glad I did not hit the submit button this time around: My husband Robert bought me a Blue Persian cat for my 26th birthday, who we named Gizmo. Gizmo was two months old when I got him. He has been by my side 13 years. He was never an outdoor cat. Everywhere in the house I was, he would be by my side. He was the kind of cat who adapted to many of the changes we've gone through. Like our first born daughter Taylor Lynn, two moves, and our second born daughter Elizabeth Anne. We also got two more cats, Angel, then Tiger. He never minded. Although they would hiss at him alot in the beginning, he would just look at them and walk away. Knowing that cats do not live very long, I never really thought about how I would handle Gizmo's death when the time came. And when I thought about it, I knew I had plenty years before I even had to think about that. In June of 2003, I took Gizmo for his grooming. When I got him home he could not walk. I thought they drugged him which I knew could not at all be possible. The woman said he was the best cat she ever worked with. I took him to the vet the next day because all day and the next morning he just could not walk. On June 2, 2003, my birthday, Gizmo was diagnosed with Kidney failure. I had the option of putting him to sleep or leaving him at the hospital and continuing fluids for the duration of his time being home. Putting him to sleep was out of the question. We took him home June 7th and every day thereafter we brought him in for fluids. I was eight months pregnant with my daughter Elizabeth. Gizmo died on November 2, 2003. The poem I wrote, "Go To Sleep", shows what the day was like when Gizmo reached the end. I had a very special bond with my cat Gizmo that will always be in my heart. I dedicate this poem to Gizmo. For everyone who owns a cat, you know how special that bond can be. People don't own cats, cats own people.
Also, to all you sincere people out there, I went out of my way to tell them this story thinking something could come of this. I hope no one else gets trapped into this scam. I'm very glad I DID NOT go ahead with it.
"Go To Sleep"
I woke up Sunday morning
and went about my day
I went into the bathroom
there on the sink you lay
You waited for me to brush my teeth
so you can drink from the tap
and when you were done, you layed back down
and continued with your nap
We all got dressed, there were things to do
so we hurried out the door
when we returned, on the sink you lay
just as you were before
Lying there on your side
something just wasn't right
There was a sudden change in you
that happened over night
The doctor called us in the room
and said you reached the end
The time had come to say goodbye
to our fluffy feline friend
She carried you in her arms to the room where we had waited
She promised us you'll feel no pain
you were heavily sedated
She layed you on the table
and not to my surprise
out of habit I took a tissue
and I began to clean your eyes
I stroked your head and kissed your face
and I could not hold back my tears
You gave this family lots of love
through all your thirteen years
I still have your baby that you carried around the house
you took it from me when you were two months old, and since then it's been like your spouse
Now you're gone and we miss you so
our home is not the same
I don't know whether to laugh or cry
when our parrot calls your name
I'll miss your purring in my ear
as you did every night
Go to sleep our beloved Gizmo
while mommy turns out the light.
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Author: Joan (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: 12-05-03 21:10
No, actually i'm not 15. I'm 39. Now you got me thinking what I said to give people the impression that i'm only 15!! lol :)
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Author: Chris Harrison (---.150.202.68.cfl.rr.com)
Date: 12-05-03 21:39
hey i know a good place to get published and it is completly legit. bro. come on i got published from that place. go to www.poetry.com and enter in the contest and thats a good way to get published.
if you wanna see my stuff search for christopher anthony harrison... and my poem is called Je't aime( i love you)
and three others.
later
chris harrison
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Author: Ivan (---.satx.rr.com)
Date: 12-05-03 23:12
I had this to say in reply to an invitation from Noble House Publishers: "You may not publish anything of mine anywhere. As you glut yourselves upon the innocence of youth may your greed and dishonesty suffocate your souls and deprive you of all that is wholesome and pure." I suggest similar measures for those who have felt the sting of their deception.
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Author: Joan (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: 12-06-03 00:37
Sorry to have to tell you this Chris, but that's the site that's being discussed here. Poetry.com is where my poem is also. All you need to do is put in the name of anyone who has posted a poem on their site (including myself)and you will see their poem. I saw mine. They even trimmed my poem so it looks pretty (eyeroll). The exact site is Poetry Bash.Com and you enter their contest and they lead you to believe that you can win up to "X" amount of dollars. You can even call their # to enter your poem online via audio. That part I did. This was before I got the email. By doing that they ask for no money. The only thing that worries me now is when I get my phone bill I can only imagine what I was charged. I do not intend on paying that part of my phone bill. Some people posting on this message board have mentioned that when someone purchases a book from NOBLE HOUSE that supposedly has their poem printed inside, their poem appears ONLY in THEIR BOOK that THEY purchased and can NOT be found in any other book. Now i'm realizing that when they catagorize all the poems from different bashes and keep moving people around and finalizing 4 finalists, the person (YOU)appears as though they have a chance @ winning because it's just them and one other person, then two more people move into your bash and so on. Well, I was sooooo close to winning, well I thought, but I didn't make it. But i'll bet on someone elses email I did win, and made it to the bracket standing alone. Get what i'm saying here?????????
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Author: Darren Alexander (---.client.attbi.com)
Date: 12-06-03 00:52
I just got the same email from Nigel Hillary at Noble House.
This kind of thievery needs to be stopped. Dude needs to be flipping burgers. ;-)
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Author: Brenda Smith (---.sequoa01.nm.comcast.net)
Date: 12-06-03 01:05
So What did they say? I have had 5 poems published by poetry.com and am buying the book for the first time to see what I get. I would aslo like to know how to look this stuff up. Noble House has published me in "Theater Of The Mind" anyone see it? lol. I was told it was a scam by a friend and so cancled my credit card before they could charge it and of course got the letter saying, "we could not process your card but your poem is published. So I was just wondering if anyone saw it. Any ifo anyone has would be appricated! I have also written Noble house a letter telling them if they do not send me a copy of the book with my poem in it I will sue them. I will let you guys know what happens there.
Thanks,
Brenda Smith
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Author: Spring Ryding (---.dhcp-156-56.indiana.edu)
Date: 12-06-03 01:07
In reply to your question about 1st books. Unless I am mistaken, this is a company based in Bloomington, Indiana that publishes 'e-books' and actually prints a book only on demand. I think the rationale is that they do not lose money on inventory taxes and that it also a means for lesser known or unknown writers to get published, at least this is what I understand from someone who has worked there.
Spring Ryding
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Author: Glory (---.jacksonville-02rh16rt-03rh15rt.fl.dial-access.)
Date: 12-06-03 08:52
I just received a letter from Noble House Publishing...I see everyone thinks it is just a scam. I may send a poem but do not intend to send any money. Not yet published I did not expect to get paid. Poetry.com also said I was picked to be published.
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