infant newspaper |
Author: Brett Burris (---.223.66.163.nw.nuvox.net)
Date: 04-14-08 16:46
interested in starting a newspaper for the youth of our world. Any ideas where to start? I think I have a good grip on it but all ideas are welcome.
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Re: infant newspaper |
Author: Brett Burris (---.223.66.163.nw.nuvox.net)
Date: 04-15-08 10:49
I am also considering using this as an educaional tool for schools, any ideas for this avenue as well? Please send all ideas
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Re: infant newspaper |
Author: Ce Ce (---.clt.bellsouth.net)
Date: 04-15-08 19:09
Hate to tell you this, dude, but if you're short of ideas, you're probably screwed going in.
Just sayin'.
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Re: infant newspaper |
Author: Brett Burris (---.223.66.163.nw.nuvox.net)
Date: 04-16-08 16:12
Well thanks for stating the obvious. I am sorry for waisting your time. I have ideas but I was trying to be realistic with my goals and ask advice from people that have been there. next time try and be helpful not cynical>
Just saying...
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Re: infant newspaper |
Author: Brett Burris (---.223.66.163.nw.nuvox.net)
Date: 04-16-08 16:47
one more thing. You are one of the reasons our society is so screwed. Each time anyone asks for help, the cynic comes along to voice his/her opinion and has nothing to look forward to other than passing judgment on them. Thanks and good luck getting the other half of the glass filled someday.
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Re: infant newspaper |
Author: Arden Wolfe (---.cabot.ar.cebridge.net)
Date: 04-16-08 20:31
You are asking people to come up with your ideas for your new newspaper, book, work, etc.
If you wanted 'advice', you should have said so. Instead, you asked for a handout. There is a big difference.
It's not cynical, it honest. And it is also the reason you got only one response - and a very point blank one.
Think about it.
Please feel free to call me colorful names when you didn't get the answer you wanted too. Everyone here is always impressed with that.
Wolfe
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Re: infant newspaper |
Author: Ce Ce (---.clt.bellsouth.net)
Date: 04-16-08 20:43
I'm very impressed.
Don't at all feel my time was waisted.
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Re: infant newspaper |
Author: Smiling Curmudgeon (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: 04-16-08 21:20
You said you're interested in starting a newspaper for the youth of our world. And that you're thinking of using it as an educational tool for schools.
Ce Ce gave you a pretty innocuous reply. You went sideways. So sideways that there was a 35 minute delay between your snotty responses to her. Sure fire way to get help, no question about it.
You questions are so unbounded it's hard to know what you're after. Looking for content ideas? Recurring column ideas? Cartoon ideas? Business model ideas? (That by itself encompasses a vast array of things including cash flow projections/start up planning/production/retail distribution/school distribution/need for venture capital/ and on and on and on.
Maybe you intend it to be an online newspaper. If so, you didn't communicate that.
Arden accurately points out that you're asking us to do your thinking for you, not comment on ideas you already have. We don't even know what your questions are. See the difference?
As to Ce Ce's glass. Bookies I talked to said it's 9-2 that her glass overfloweth.
Anyway, if you grow some skin, think about starting over here. There are lotsa smart folks here.
Cur
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Re: infant newspaper |
Author: Ce Ce (---.clt.bellsouth.net)
Date: 04-16-08 21:50
As to Ce Ce's glass. Bookies I talked to said it's 9-2 that her glass overfloweth.
;)
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Re: infant newspaper |
Author: Brett Burris (---.223.66.163.nw.nuvox.net)
Date: 04-17-08 14:24
well I am sorry for being protective of my ideas. I was under the impression that by stating I was interested in starting a newspaper and was looking for ideas maybe I could get a helpful response. See I was wrong for having faith in humanity that I might get help. The funny thing is I did get help and it took me two days to see it. If I have an idea then go with don't bother waisting my time asking others for ideas or help. I was wrong when I thought this was an area for help. Seems it is just a place to have someone judge you and your ideas. I was trying to take advantage of the internet as a tool for help when I all got was a response from a Tool. Sideways, I din't go sideways but I have now. Thank you for all your help. I guess that is why you judge me by the time it took me to repond, I have better things to do than judge people in cyberland, I have a life. Take care WOlf and cece! you are so helpful!next time maybe you can give advice on the suicide hotline!you seem like you are cutout for that kind of wrk. Or maybe you could aplly for GOD, isnt he the only one who has the ability to pass judgment on a person.
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Re: infant newspaper |
Author: Brett Burris (---.223.66.163.nw.nuvox.net)
Date: 04-17-08 14:33
I didnt ask for advice I asked for ideas. SOrry to bother anyone. I am sorry for not giving any direct lines as to what I wanted. I did not ask about business plans. I asked for ideas. If I was asked for ideas I would have replied with a question. What are you looking for? Is it a national paper, local paper? Is it internet based? do you have writers, what kind f experience do you have? see what I mean. instead just your screwed. I dont want anyone to do the work for me, just ideas from anyone that has any expereince with this sort of venture. I guess this is the point where I go Sideways. Thanks but maybe this is just the wrong place to be asking for help.
Sorry I bothered any of you and next time I ask for advice I will be more pointed in my questioning because obviously stating I would like ideas is just to much to ask.
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Re: infant newspaper |
Author: Kate Humphrey (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: 04-17-08 16:40
I sm betting that you didn't stop reading the post, and I am not going to bash you. See as I don't want to do this myself, I have no problem giving you my ideas.
I would DEFINITELY make it an e zine, or internet production, seeing as you intend it for the youth. Yo KAteu do have to consider where you are going to get contributions, what kind of thing you want to publish, who you are going to market to, and how you are going to do production costs and circulation. Most e zines don't last long because poele lose interest in keeping them up. Nothing annoys me more than a newsletter that comes rarely if not at all. I would research the market a little for what your idea specifically is going for, readership, subject matter, etc. And, about your ideas, we are all protective, but as a writer we also need a thick skin. Watch your personal attacks.
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Re: infant newspaper |
Author: Arden Wolfe (---.cabot.ar.cebridge.net)
Date: 04-17-08 17:11
I, however, will tell you how it is.
Jesus Christ. You ain't gonna make it in this business with an attitude like that. Get thicker skin, quit with the emotional posts and grow up.
No one was impressed before, and we certainly aren't impressed with the whining now.
If you seriously want to be the leader and editor of a newspaper for the youth, get off the freakin' cross.
And it spelled 'waste' not waist - W.A.S.T.E.! Waist is the area below your chest and above your groin.
Sheesh.
Wolfe
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Re: infant newspaper |
Author: Xavier Onassis (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: 04-17-08 17:34
See I was wrong for having faith in humanity that I might get help.
No, you were wrong for thinking that other people should make it happen for you.
XO
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Re: infant newspaper |
Author: Brett Burris (---.223.66.163.nw.nuvox.net)
Date: 04-17-08 18:08
Thank you for the msg Kate. I have been reading other children's publications and have backers financially I just wanted any ideas others may have had before me. I would be foolish to think someone else had never thought of this idea. I do have one question for you though.
I have an idea I have seen in other pubs. they take an article and write it as if it were being txt over a cell phone. I like the idea however I am mixed about it. kids get enough of the abbreviations in our world. can I get another perspective on this please
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Re: infant newspaper |
Author: Brett Burris (---.223.66.163.nw.nuvox.net)
Date: 04-17-08 18:18
I am sorry for ever giving anyone the idea that all I wanted was for them to do the work, or that all I wanted was ideas to take from them and turn them into something for myself. I am sorry for ever giving anyone that impression.
I would like anyone with viable ideas, or advice to post them for discussion. that is all nothing more.
again, I am sorry for giving anyone the wrong idea as to what I am looking for.
this is research, as with any company or a person wanting to start a company you have to do lots and lots of research. that is all this is...
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Re: infant newspaper |
Author: Kate Humphrey (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: 04-18-08 09:48
Brett,
I am of a bit older generation, younger than 40, older than 30, but I never got into the texting thing. For me it has always been a convenience thing, so I can get a message to someone for cheaper, or ask them a quick question or whatever.
If you mean using the abbreviations that we have, i.e. LOL, L8ter, etc., I would use the ones that are well established if you do it at all. I have never seen it myself, and it sounds kind of hokey, but if it seems to work in other publications. Can you give me a bit of an idea of what you are thinking of for more specific feedback? Kate
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Re: infant newspaper |
Author: Xavier Onassis (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: 04-18-08 11:18
Brett
The whole "thicken up your skin" concept Arden referenced really needs looked at IMHO.
XO
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Re: infant newspaper |
Author: d. Leroy (---.area5.spcsdns.net)
Date: 04-22-08 19:50
What rock did this guy crawl out from under? Is it the same rock as many others - do they all share the same rock?
Brett... bottom line, you're going to fail. Why? Because you couldn't take a simple response from a public message board without failing miserabley in the area of interpersonal communication, clarification of intent, or maturity.
I'd wish you luck, but it won't help. Now... I've given you the target. Take your best shot.
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Re: infant newspaper |
Author: Brett Burris (---.223.66.163.nw.nuvox.net)
Date: 04-23-08 05:25
thanks for the vote of confidence! you know this is so funny to me. Maybe you can get under my skin later. Thanks for all the great comments and responses. Take care and good luck to all. This was a great learning experience and one I will not forget! thanks again!
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Re: infant newspaper |
Author: Dave O (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: 04-23-08 19:11
As someone who would be considered a youth, my opinion on the matter is a little dubious, to be quite honest.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing you or anything, and I'm sure you have plenty of ideas, etc. And you said you had backers, so I assume these aren't just random thoughts or whatnot.
However, I have a hard time imagining what a "Youth Magazine" would write about. I mean, sure, you could write about movies, celebrities, video games, maybe publish some interesting anecdotal stories, etc. Personally though, the vast majority of that would not interest me in the least. You have an interesting idea, but if you turned the publication into a gossip magazine, I think you'd really be falling short.
My suggestion would be to try to have two sections. One dealing with the teen world, and one dealing with the adult world. For the teen world, you could have essays from the "youth" about current events, etc, interesting/inspiring stories, that sort of thing. And in regards to the adult world section, I think it would be interesting if you brought kids the news of the greater world around them, but in a way that connected the topic under discussion to them.
As for some of the comments that were being thrown around...
In my personal opinion, both parties are at fault. I respect all you guys very much, and you've all given me a great amount of help, but the fact is that it's very easy to misinterpret someone on the internet and i think we need to be mindful of that.
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Re: infant newspaper |
Author: Arden Wolfe (---.cabot.ar.cebridge.net)
Date: 04-23-08 22:27
True.
And this is why most of us said nothing at first. We were not 100% certain of the question or what to make of it.
Ce Ce offered her opinion.
When the OP responded, he left no doubt in anyone's mind.
No one will ever accuse me of never trying to help near everyone on these boards, but if you're posting and reactions are like the ones above ... well, no other explanation is needed.
How else do you interpret: You are one of the reasons our society is so screwed.
I don't see it as very flattering, do you?
That said, I'm sure the OP want this thread to die now.
Wolfe
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Re: infant newspaper |
Author: Gravity Fades (---.43.18.203.nw.nuvox.net)
Date: 04-25-08 16:42
But let's not let it (insert eeeeevil laugh). *G*
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Re: infant newspaper |
Author: Brett Burris (---.tmodns.net)
Date: 04-26-08 10:23
Sorry I ahve been away and no I do not want this to die. I value your opinions however I asked for help and got an answer I half expected and maybe it is totally my fault for not asking it in the propoer manner. Enough with all of that though. I appreciate the thoughts Dave. Here is more to the point of what I want. I intend on the paper being about 70 percent factual cuurent events. Ranging from the wars, the oils crisis and so on. I really want it to be more educational and less goosip. I love our youth and our world but so many of us including myself need some guidance about the world we live in. How many 15 year olds in our world have any concept of ARAMCO, investing. Hell most cannot understand the concept of balancing a checkbook
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Re: infant newspaper |
Author: Arden Wolfe (---.cabot.ar.cebridge.net)
Date: 04-26-08 12:19
I recommend you start a new thread then. Place it in the the writer's area this time.
Be sure to ask the question and be crystal clear this time. And if you get negative feedback, be gracious this time. I don't care how ugly it is. Be gracious, thankful and move on.
People are more inclined to help someone who shows maturity as opposed to someone who appears to lack it. The writer's forums are not place for an emotional breakdown.
Remember that.
Good luck to you again.
Peace.
Wolfe
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Re: infant newspaper |
Author: Vaughan P (---.nap.wideopenwest.com)
Date: 05-06-08 18:18
Always was one to be the last to the dance but nevertheless, herein lies the rub Brett.
You used the word "waisted" in a rather poor attempt to express your cherubic indignation and pimply huffpuffery which naturally, segues into some online and offline snickering from some of the members of this forum.
Invariably, with gems such "I was trying to take advantage of the internet as a tool for help when I all got was a response from a Tool" laid out for all and sundry, there will be some sort of reproach from Mother Cece and Daddy Wolfe,but take heart child.
One must take those admonishments in good faith. Mother and Daddy do appear to be somewhat learned in the art of scribe and scratch and - apart from the occasional cantankerous ass reaming and display of paper thin patience - they do proffer some reasonable and usually poignant advice.
So take your lumps kid. Shake it off and move on.
Oh, and for the love of Websters Thesaurus use your damn spellcheck.If you have trouble with it, you can call the suicide helpline...or maybe you should just get back to your goosip about aplly for God and screwing society.
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Re: infant newspaper |
Author: Ce Ce (---.clt.bellsouth.net)
Date: 05-08-08 22:44
... there will be some sort of reproach from Mother Cece and Daddy Wolfe,but take heart child.
One must take those admonishments in good faith. Mother and Daddy do appear to be somewhat learned in the art of scribe and scratch and - apart from the occasional cantankerous ass reaming and display of paper thin patience - they do proffer some reasonable and usually poignant advice.
LOL!
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Author: Xavier Onassis (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: 05-19-08 12:23
cherubic indignation and pimply huffpuffery
Wheeeeeeeeee! That's why I like writer's sites. I wish there was a band called Pimply Huffpuffery.
XO
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