Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Naomi B. (---.sip.asm.bellsouth.net)
Date: 07-19-08 18:38
Hey to you two,
The Challenge has been swept into the older message area.... things got hectic in my life over the last 24 hours, and I have not had a chance to say thanks. So thank you very much to both of you for answering my questions. I appreciate your time and your input.
XO thank you for the offer to email; however, I am into the "thinky winky" thing rather hard. We each have our basic nature to follow. And that is not to say that the entire Challenge thread has not given me many things to think about on its own; rather, it has.
Ro your website is awesome. Thanks for the book recs. I will get to them shortly.
Take care,
Thanks again,
N.
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Xavier Onassis (---.dhcp.embarqhsd.net)
Date: 07-19-08 18:42
Naomi
I am into the "thinky winky" thing rather hard. We each have our basic nature to follow.
This is the thing to overcome, dear. Whenever you're ready let me know.
XO
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: J G (---.nrflva.east.verizon.net)
Date: 07-19-08 18:47
Anyone want to buy some Amway?
Ohhh, I'm teasing!
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Naomi B. (---.sip.asm.bellsouth.net)
Date: 07-19-08 18:48
LOL.
I remember AMWAY.
Now I feel OLD. ;)
N.
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Naomi B. (---.sip.asm.bellsouth.net)
Date: 07-19-08 18:50
XO,
Thanks doll. I'll reach out to you if I do change my mind.
:)
N.
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Lily (---.net)
Date: 07-19-08 19:02
"...there is insufficient evidence to indicate that reiki is effective as sole or adjuvant therapy for any medical condition, or that it has any benefits beyond possible placebo effects.[6][7]"
Wikipedia
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Xavier Onassis (---.dhcp.embarqhsd.net)
Date: 07-19-08 23:56
Lily
You may find this shocking, but I don't care about what others think of it ;)
XO
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Xavier Onassis (---.dhcp.embarqhsd.net)
Date: 07-19-08 23:56
Also not really following the Amway reference.
XO
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Keith . (---.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com)
Date: 07-20-08 00:09
Jeesh, the memories! My aunt sold freaking Amway and guilted my mom into buying cases of it. The toothpaste tasted like caulking smells. Bleck!
km
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Xavier Onassis (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: 07-20-08 08:45
Oh, I see.
Naomi --
Sorry if you thought I was trying to sell you my services. I did offer you that option, which apparently was seen as over the line. I apologize for that. Please note that I also offered you an excellent FREE resource online, two excellent teachers that I highly recommend.
XO
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Sapphire Savvy (76.251.178.---)
Date: 07-20-08 10:21
I didn't realize everyone didn't know what Amway is. I am SUPER-old. LOL.
XO, you've been very helpful to everyone here. The site is better because of you.
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Kay Bratt (---.gsp.bellsouth.net)
Date: 07-20-08 11:36
FYI: Amway is still huge in China---
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: J G (---.nrflva.east.verizon.net)
Date: 07-20-08 13:28
Sapphire,
I'm only 28 and know what Amway is. ;)
Anyway, just to reiterate.. I was only teasing with making the Amway comparison, XO ;)
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Naomi B. (---.sip.asm.bellsouth.net)
Date: 07-20-08 13:30
XO,
Just to clarify, I did NOT think that you were selling your services to me. I understood what you said, as well as, your friendly, call on me if you like, offer.
I also thought JG's joke was funny.
Maybe I should have emailed you and RO thank you notes to your private email addresses.
More's the pity that a simple thank you is getting corrupted.
N.
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: J G (---.nrflva.east.verizon.net)
Date: 07-20-08 14:51
I don't think it's getting corrupted, Naomi!
No one is talking ill of XO's contribution, and like I said, I was just teasing with him :)
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Xavier Onassis (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: 07-20-08 15:38
JG
You may not be aware of this, so I'll let you in on something. You consistently appear to have some axe to grind with me. So what you think of as "teasing" comes across as "hostile."
XO
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Xavier Onassis (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: 07-20-08 16:17
JG --
I don't think it's getting corrupted, Naomi!
I do. Someone extends a thanks to me, and before I can even register it, you've already crapped on it. Nice. Not that I don't enjoy you and Lily following me around trying to knock over my lunch tray all the time or anything. You give me a lot to work with.
Sapphire --
Thanks for the good thoughts.
Naomi --
There's an important point here. The desire to process things at a safe distance (initellectually) is very common and very strong. Unfortunately it actually prevents growth by keeping you out of your heart space. Ego lives in the head, spirit lives in the heart. The only way to shift your consciousness is to shift from your head to your heart. There's a place for intellectual studying -- post experiential learning, or at least alongside it.
XO
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Lily (---.net)
Date: 07-20-08 16:30
"The only way to shift your consciousness is to shift from your head to your heart."
Yet emotions are the root cause of most problems. Someone even posted a mantra (on your long thread) that went something like: "No emotions. Peace." And sheesh, I can certainly buy that.
Buddhism also cautions against emotional connections. So does Catholicism. Emotional attachments are nasty sticky things that can end in all sorts of grief -- jealousies and even murder.
One must never put anyone else in God's place, and that's what can happen when one "worships" another, be it shag partner or child. Although I can understand being dotty about one's own kid. I tend to get too attached to critters, myself. I recognise the weakness. So I've solved it by removing myself from those furry sweethearts.
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Naomi B. (---.sip.asm.bellsouth.net)
Date: 07-20-08 16:44
XO,
I hear what you are saying. I'm listening from the place of a person who has a university degree in comparative relgion among the handfull of papers I've collected in life and presently use as a handsome dartboard.
In my humble little opinion, what works for me, my process, is what works for me. It's an evolving process.
Yes, I agree that intellectualizing a subject *can* create a safe habor from which to start a journey. Some people throw up sails and head out to sea. I, for one, prefer a map before beginnning a quest.
That being said, I think my questions to you and RO revolved around Guides. This is an issue that I have not intellectualized in my life and also not gone very far with; I've just done it. It's time for me to get a map.
N.
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Lily (---.net)
Date: 07-20-08 17:14
Reiki(sp?) is just another name for psychic healing, which does, incidentally, work. Or it can, with a legitimate healer. As for this oonopoonooni (sp?) thing, it borrows from other disciplines. For instance, the "Just for today" advice, comes from Alcoholic's Anonymous, and it makes perfect sense.
A footnote here about psychic healing. Like all medicine, it's a two-way street. There are no magic bullets. If it can't hurt, it can't cure. Psychic healing is an exchange of energy. A healer can feel her patient's pain, and likewise, (and this happened to me when the psychic healer had a cold :-) the patient can feel the healer's pain, also. It was weird, I can tell you. I was wheezy for a while. But it soon dissipates.
The lesson here is, be very careful who you allow to work on you, in any capacity.
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Lily (---.net)
Date: 07-20-08 17:20
As for "Spirit Guides?" The majority believe they're just fractured pieces of one's own subconscious. Caution is called for though, in case they're wrong. When one starts believing in something intangible and largely undocumented, there is nowhere to turn if a problem results. How does one know if this "guide" is a wholesome friendly entity? Or, a devious rogue spirit masquerading as such? Perhaps our resident experts here -- Hi there, XO and Ro, have the answer?
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Xavier Onassis (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: 07-20-08 17:35
Naomi
In my humble little opinion, what works for me, my process, is what works for me. It's an evolving process.
I don't mean to downgrade you. I'm just talking from what I see with my students. It's the single biggest hurdle I have to overcome as a teacher before people start having major breakthroughs, get them out of analysis paralysis.
That being said, I think my questions to you and RO revolved around Guides. This is an issue that I have not intellectualized in my life and also not gone very far with; I've just done it. It's time for me to get a map.
Right. My thinking on this is that what you're wanting to do is kind of the cart before the horse. I also was able to do the spirit communication thing when I was younger, spontaneously, without a map.
What I eventually came to learn was that my personal vibration was so low, so rife with anger, fear, and general ego stuff, that I was only able to connect on a less desirable level.
The more you work to elevate your vibration and keep it consistently at that higher vibration, the easier it will be for you to follow deeply wholesome guidance. I recommend Reiki because it's an excellent way to improve your overall energy signature, making it easier to do what you want to do. In a nutshell, I'd consider it highly recommended prep for what you want to do.
Again, this is something my students ask about all the time, and this is how we handle it.
XO
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Naomi B. (---.sip.asm.bellsouth.net)
Date: 07-20-08 18:33
XO,
Ah. Ok. Thank you for articulating the relationship between the two. Maybe you or RO said that somewhere before and I missed it...?
That makes a lot of sense.
N.
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: J G (---.nrflva.east.verizon.net)
Date: 07-20-08 19:59
XO,
I can't help how you feel about something. If you think that what someone tells you is a joke is "hostile," then that's your problem. All I can do is tell you that you're wrong in thinking I'm trying to offend you. I said I was teasing. I was.
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: J G (---.nrflva.east.verizon.net)
Date: 07-20-08 20:08
... and in addition to my last post, I have to point out that Naomi obviously recognized that my Amway comment was a joke, and nothing more... Just a joke.
As far as your lumping me in with Lily and claiming we, her or I follow you around and bother you or whatever, I couldn't disagree more. I haven't had an issue with you in a good while, and if you think I do/did, well then, again.. I'd consider taking a bit of your own life advice and relaxing a bit.. I have very little if any negativity in my life energy right now. How about you? With all your "enlightenment," I thought you'd be better suited to recognize what is meant to be a joke, and friendly teasing as opposed to ridicule.
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Lily (---.net)
Date: 07-20-08 20:27
"With all your "enlightenment," I thought you'd be better suited to recognize what is meant to be a joke, and friendly teasing as opposed to ridicule."
Something about Physician heal thyself, springs to mind. You know all that self improvement guru stuff is as much bunk. XO's defensiveness proves it.
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Ro Lefwyn (---.lnngmi.dedicated.static.tds.net)
Date: 07-21-08 08:38
Ah well it might be an imaginary cure, but its still a cure, regardless if it's all in the mind or not, power of suggestion or regardless if I had anything to do with it or not.
Because its all bunk I am required to carry malpractice insurance ...for those imaginary lawsuits that spring up from these imaginary cures.. lol.
ro
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Ro Lefwyn (---.lnngmi.dedicated.static.tds.net)
Date: 07-21-08 08:39
by the way, thank you, Naomi and you are very welcome.
ro
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Beautiful Loser (---.dllstx.fios.verizon.net)
Date: 07-21-08 09:18
The trouble with trouble is that it almost always starts out as fun...
When one teases continuously, a pattern develops. What a person exhibiting such behavior fails to realize is that in future interactions, he/she won't be taken seriously.
Also, the person teased will often consider the teasing as an act of hostility. Why else would a teaser repetitiously tease, unless such teasing were pleasing to him/herself?
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: J G (---.nrflva.east.verizon.net)
Date: 07-21-08 10:18
1. I don't tease "continuously."
2. I don't really care if I'm taken seriously or not on an internet message board. ;) I'm not trying to "change peoples lives" here or anything. I influence people in real life.
3. Again, I can't help how another person responds to a little insignificant joke. If they want to bring all that negative energy into their life by thinking I'm being "hostile," then that's they're problem.
I'll reiterate... Naomi recognized my tiny little joke about Amway for what it was, a joke. For anyone else who may still be confused, I'll repeat myself again. XO? My little joke about Amway was just... a... joke.... We have been getting along quite well recently, from the Bob Barr thread, to a bit of interaction in the challenge thread. I don't have a problem with you at all. If you do me, then, that's unfortunate.
I really think some of you missed the points XO and RO were trying to make.
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: J G (---.nrflva.east.verizon.net)
Date: 07-21-08 10:19
Awww... They're = their
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Beautiful Loser (---.dllstx.fios.verizon.net)
Date: 07-21-08 10:20
I didn't miss a thing, Jeremy.
Just calling it like I see it.
Have a great day.
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: J G (---.nrflva.east.verizon.net)
Date: 07-21-08 10:22
Well, you apparently did miss something. I don't tease continuously, and am not concerned about being taken seriously by people who can't recognize a joke on an internet message board like Naomi was able to do just fine.
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Beautiful Loser (---.dllstx.fios.verizon.net)
Date: 07-21-08 12:57
Nah...most of the time, I laugh at you, J G. So do many others.
Do a search of your posts, and see for yourself that it's you that have missed something. *shrugs*
It started with your condescending remarks to Darcy Andries.
There are many others, of course, but I won't stoop to your level.
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: J G (---.nrflva.east.verizon.net)
Date: 07-21-08 13:54
B.L.,
You're quite an enigma. You pretend to be peoples' friends one minute, and then hop on the bandwagon and tear them down the next when you can't think of anything else to say for yourself. I especially love how you've insulted me even though I haven't done that to you or the people this thread is about. But then again, your lack of originality and intelligent thought isn't really anything new. Does that sound like an insult? Nah.. just calling it like I see it.
Anyway, I sense much hostility and anger in you, dear Belinda. I recommend you read this.
By the way, you've never spelled my name right, so, just stick with J G, sweetheart.
:)
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Lily (---.net)
Date: 07-21-08 15:40
Ro
I didn't mean to imply that psychic healing is bunk. I know it's not. I experienced it myself. And it's not merely psychological. There are puffs of heat radiating out of the palms of a healer's hands. This was felt several inches away from my back. (I have spinal problems) She never actually touched me. Remember, I was a skeptic. Further, I don't see any way that this effect could be engineered fraudulently?
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Xavier Onassis (---.dhcp.embarqhsd.net)
Date: 07-21-08 18:43
blah blah blah, brbrbrbrbr, blah blah. yaddah, yaddah. wow!
XO
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Lily (---.net)
Date: 07-21-08 19:03
"blah blah blah, brbrbrbrbr, blah blah. yaddah, yaddah. wow!"
Gee, XO, is this what you teach in your classes? Brilliant! :-)
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: J G (---.nrflva.east.verizon.net)
Date: 07-21-08 19:22
XO,
I'll say this sincerely one last time, and I'll do my best to leave this alone lest someone jumps me again...
I [i]was[/i] just teasing with my Amway joke. I meant no offense.
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: J G (---.nrflva.east.verizon.net)
Date: 07-21-08 19:23
Aww... "was"
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Lily (---.net)
Date: 07-21-08 20:07
There was not a thing out of line about your Amway joke, JG. You indicated it as such right off the bat. It was very amusing. Anyone who took offense, must feel they really are in the same kind of racket, that's why it touched a nerve. Now what someone like that needs is Reiki or Nike, or Oonnopoonononi, or whatever. :-)
Cheers
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Re: Thanks RO and XO |
Author: Xavier Onassis (---.dhcp.embarqhsd.net)
Date: 07-21-08 21:11
In other news:
I'm about 86 hours into a 96-hour shift. I've finally, FINALLY broke on through to the other side. I'm now at a point where I'm not tired anymore, not crabby anymore. Now I just feel alive, and I want some iced coffee. All of my urging other people to eschew their egos has paid off, and I'm presented with an amazing opportunity to confront my own.
Some of the stuff in this thread went from annoying to so boring I couldn't bother to read it. I realize some people did post some things that were not emotionally retarded, and I apologize for throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I just skimmed past a bunch of stuff when I saw so much verbal phlegm.
So per Kitty's suggestion, and since a few people were still interested in the journey, I'll be starting a new thread for anyone who wants to observe me working my own challenge.
XO
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