Brainstorming: what do you think of these domain n |
Author: dropdown dropdown (---.mia.three.co.uk)
Date: 07-11-08 10:25
Hi,
I'm setting up a site for writers to upload work to and for marketing people to download those resources from for a fee.
Two of the domain names I'm considering for this are:
PolarFolder.com
and
PolarInk.com
I'm looking for impressions of these names - is either one memorable for example - what's your general reaction to these domain names?
Many thanks for any thoughts.
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: dropdown dropdown (---.mia.three.co.uk)
Date: 07-11-08 10:32
Alternatively, what do you think of this domain: PLRstock.com
?
(PLR: Private Label Rights material is stuff - usually articles and ebooks - that doesn't have regular copyright attached to it - the buyer can put their own name to it and they can rewrite and change what they want or simply publish it as their own. Often PLR material sells multiple copies, and internet marketeers use it as food for their site - for users and search engines.)
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: Sail Away (---.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net)
Date: 07-11-08 11:37
If I had to choose, I would go for PolarInk. Sounds better than the others. At least to me.
Good luck with this.
-SA
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: dropdown dropdown (---.mia.three.co.uk)
Date: 07-11-08 12:21
thanks Sail Away.
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: dropdown dropdown (---.mia.three.co.uk)
Date: 07-11-08 12:29
I'm thinking that PolarInk for example sounds more creative, and might appeal to some writers.. maybe - and they are half of my target market. The other half of my target market is marketeers - and I'm wondering if PLRstock is nicely business-like, as well as being fairly descriptive - with it including the term PLR.
There is also a stock on the stock market called PLR - so I'm wondering about any negatives from that pov. On balance as far as I can see, it's not particularly negative:
If someone types in "plr stock" into google they won't find me - i won't compete on those keywords - but that's only if they know my name already and dont type it in properly in the url bar - and i'm sure those few people will figure it out.
all other contexts - i'm thinking if someone mentions the website to someone else or if i google-ad advertise it, or in search engines, it's always going to be in context, as far as i think...
i'm also thinking, well it could refer to stock on the stock market too, and maybe it's better to have a name that wouldnt have two references, but on the other hand it's not a hugely negative reference - stock market is all about money!..
I'm not sure though - I am interested to hear if anyone has any thoughts on that or on any other plus or negative points.
- that's just one thought of course - i'm interested in general impressions as much as anything
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Author: Sail Away (---.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net)
Date: 07-11-08 14:16
In my most humble opinion, PLRstock is boring. Waaaay to boring. Marketing professionals are creative people too. PLRstock is the type of name that kinda sucks the creative juices right on out of ya.
Again, just my opinion.
-SA
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Author: Sail Away (---.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net)
Date: 07-11-08 14:17
correction: Waaaay too boring.
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: dropdown dropdown (---.mia.three.co.uk)
Date: 07-11-08 14:58
thanks SA, it is kinda boring, isn't it - i've been trying to decide whether it's good because it's descriptive, or crap because it is a bit boring.
I have wordfruit.com which could work for it - the thing that was holding me back from using that is that plr can be things other than ebooks and articles - it can be software for example, and i wanted to keep it open for that - though ebooks and articles is my sole focus - to begin with at least - maybe not to expand anyway; and if it gets a 'name', then i could maybe still use 'wordfruit' for things outside articles and ebooks...
what do you think of wordfruit?
other domains i have that i could use for it are diddlypop.com - which i bought just cos i thought it was funny sounding - though maybe its too close to diddly squat? and i have phlax.com - which i bought because i thought it was good and memorable for some project down the line - my feeling is that of those wordfruit would be best - of course i dont have to use one i already have - as long as its one i can get hold of..
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Author: Sail Away (---.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net)
Date: 07-11-08 15:24
what do you think of wordfruit?
It's better than PLRstock. I still like PolarInk the best.
-SA
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: dropdown dropdown (---.mia.three.co.uk)
Date: 07-11-08 15:59
thanks again SA - i'm thinking about that - i'm not in love with PolarInk... but then i'm not really in love with wordfruit...
i kind of feel wordfruit might appeal to writers and marketeers - juicy words, and words that bring fruit - money - also, which is what the idea of the site is... i'm just not in love with the name...
one name i do like (that i have) is PHLAX.com - but kind of the opposite of my feeling towards wordfruit, i like it as a name, but it doesnt really say 'writing material' for marketeers to me.
any opinions on those for this site - PHLAX.com and WordFruit.com
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Author: dropdown dropdown (---.mia.three.co.uk)
Date: 07-11-08 16:13
i just noticed that 'phlax' doesnt seem that easy to type - i kind of feel i have to think about the combination of letters to type it - maybe it's the position of the 'x' on the keyboad, or maybe it's just me.
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: Lily (---.net)
Date: 07-11-08 16:37
Since it's about writing, why not something like "GoldenWords?"
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: Patrick Edwards (63.240.53.---)
Date: 07-11-08 16:49
I was going to say I like PLRstock (:) seriously!) but I do like the newly introduced "GoldenWords."
but I must add that I do kinda like WordFruit, too....
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: Lily (---.net)
Date: 07-11-08 17:05
Or, how about the "WordBank?"
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: Lily (---.net)
Date: 07-11-08 18:02
WordFactory?
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: Cara K (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: 07-11-08 22:04
I like wordfruit, with wordbank as runner up.
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Author: Lily (---.net)
Date: 07-11-08 22:52
WinningWords
WordWizard
WordsGalore
WordWagon
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: dropdown dropdown (---.mia.three.co.uk)
Date: 07-12-08 03:30
Hi,
thanks for those ideas.
all of those domains are registered already, though I've sent an email to the owner of one of them asking if he or she is interested in selling.
thanks.
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: Lily (---.net)
Date: 07-12-08 18:21
Wordipedia?
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Author: dropdown dropdown (---.mia.three.co.uk)
Date: 07-12-08 19:34
thanks Lily,
wordipedia is registered - that doesn't stop me putting in an offer of course, though my past experience of making offers on domains is of people wanting what i think are pretty unrealistic prices for them - you may well know that there're tons of people hanging onto domains hoping for a high-figure sale - lots of them losing money through costs of renewing registration rather than making money i think.
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: Lily (---.net)
Date: 07-12-08 21:33
Dropdown
I can appreciate it's not easy to find a catchy, easy to remember name that is appropriate and available. And you don't want to have to spend a small fortune buying one that's already registered. I hate that kind of gouging.
I know the WordBank is gone. But how about deviating a bit, with the WordTank?
Or:
WordWicket
WordCabaret
WordBazaar
WordKiosk
WordBoutique
WordPlaza
WordMall
WordCellar
WordLibrary
WordLoft
WordParlour
WordBarrow
WordBarrel
WordBasket
WordAtrium
WordAttic
WordMezzanine
WordTerrace
WordDock
WordHarbour
WordCafe
WordDisco
WordFerry
WordTrain
WordMill
Good luck!
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: Lily (---.net)
Date: 07-12-08 21:40
WordBureau
WordChest
WordFile
WordVault
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: Kitty Foyle (75.44.203.---)
Date: 07-12-08 22:16
WordGlut :-)
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: dropdown dropdown (---.mia.three.co.uk)
Date: 07-12-08 22:27
thanks for posting those up - i like the idea of worddock - though it's registered...
actually Wordfruit - which i already own - is growing on me. I bought it for a different purpose and didnt use it. But i think it might just do the trick...
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: the cat came back (---.cpe.net.cable.roger)
Date: 07-12-08 23:19
Wordy.
Lordy!
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: Kitty Foyle (75.44.203.---)
Date: 07-12-08 23:37
Not trying to change your mind, dropdown, especially since you already own "Wordfruit."
Just wanted to say that it reminds me of Billie Holiday's haunting song, "Strange Fruit."
http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=23099
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: dropdown dropdown (---.mia.three.co.uk)
Date: 07-13-08 04:49
thanks. I'm interested to hear if it reminds anyone else of that.
though i wouldnt necessarily see it as a negative - the song doesnt quite match the juiciness i was going for with the name, but i guess the association would give the domain more resonance and therefore maybe good memorability.
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Author: Kitty Foyle (---.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net)
Date: 07-13-08 10:06
dropdown, I'm wondering how many young'uns today even heard of Billie Holiday much less the song. :-)
So...not to worry.
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: L C (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date: 07-13-08 12:05
I don't understand "polarlink" or "polarfolder" as a writing site. Maybe I'm missing something. Wordfruit is the best suggestion I've heard so far. I would use something with word or writing, to make it clear what the site's about, and a hit in a Google search on the subject.
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: dropdown dropdown (---.mia.three.co.uk)
Date: 07-13-08 12:43
Glad to hear it - as I'm probably going to go with Wordfruit.
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: Jordan (66.90.104.---)
Date: 07-13-08 13:51
Unless I'm missing something here - Wordfruit sounds pretty darned odd.
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: dropdown dropdown (---.mia.three.co.uk)
Date: 07-13-08 14:41
Thanks Jordan - interesting comment - I'm interested to hear more if you care to expound at all...
Just to give a quick summary of the project: it will be a place that writers can upload articles and ebooks to and marketeers can download them for a fee. The writer takes the fee minus a commission which the website takes.
So the target market is both writers and marketeers.
Wordfruit is odd for that concept?
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: Lily (---.net)
Date: 07-13-08 15:06
Dropdown
Maybe we've been missing the goal, here. Writers are a dime a dozen, you'll have no problem attracting them, no matter what you call your site. In fact, you'll be deluged. It's the marketeers, who will be funding the project, we should be catering to and targeting. So the domain name should appeal to them. Business people look for value. Why not something like: EconoWord or QualityWord?
Your slogan could be: Quality writing at affordable prices.
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: Anthony Ravenscroft (---.farg.qwest.net)
Date: 07-13-08 15:59
I've lately been threatening to write a site (& maybe a small book) about branding & URLs, so pardon any subsequent rantage.
-- many sites that are wildly successful have a nonlabeling URL. What the heck do you buy or learn at a "yahoo" or "google" or "amazon" -- or, d-d, considering your project, a "punchstock"?
-- one reason that commercial sites avoid a descriptive name is because it's far easier to maintain strong IP (intellectual property -- trademark, patent, copyright) rights. If you create a new mechanical fastener, & call it a "Lugnut," you're outta luck; call a new cookie a "Lugnut" & you can probably lock down the rights.
-- a company might even avoid an URL that resembles their corporate identity. Up here, a local realtor's URL is WeListWeSell.com, even though they're The Real Estate Place.
-- such might be chosen because the name's easier to remember, or can be reliably transmitted verbally without needing to be spelled carefully out.
-- such might also be chosen for their memetic value -- they stick in your head, & are easily recalled after only two or three mentions.
-- for that reason, don't go for the tinyshortest URL (people on eBay seem to go insane for 2-character URLs) when you could instead get something that people can remember. Of course, don't try to cram an entire sentence or even phrase into your website name.
-- you're fighting a heavy current. For anyone who wants to see:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22private+label+rights%22
Your biggest problem is going to be in getting (a) decent work that isn't on thousands of other sites, & (b) making your shop stand out from the rest. (Yes, the grammar's correct, but call it two deeply interlocked problems, if you'd rather.) For the latter, one great way is to avoid doing what everyone else is doing -- which would also take care of (a). For now, it's clear that there are thousands of little shops bidding on Google AdWords, so it'll cost you a few bushels to even have a hope of getting noticed.
-- therefore, you need to stand out from the herd. Using PLR & associated buzzwords in your pages is a great idea -- metatags & all that -- but you might want to go for something more memorable in your URL. The PolarInk.com idea is good, especially if you can tie in homepage visuals. My gut says there's better options, but nothing comes to mind at the moment.
-- you'll also want to dig up good articles, as unique as possible. One suggestion: find self-pub authors on relevant topics, & get them to "nuggetize" their books, licensing excerpts to you. The work's already been done & just needs editing to purpose. You can offer far less than to a freelancer & get exclusivity on the nuggets; you can offer a nice "is the author of" bio blub & links to their book on Amazon & their "publisher."
-- most PLR consumers are -- let's face it -- about two steps this side of a scam: they crank out a site (or ten) a week, paste some content into it, then sell the click-throughs & eyeballs. After getting the clone started, they might sell it for a few grand, & the new sucker watches revenues slowly slide to zero from lack of update. And most of the shops that do what you propose are reselling the same dreck over & over again, with no changes! Nobody's selling to the minority: the ones that're in it for the long haul, the ones who want to keep most of their clones living for a few years & keep the income steady rather than in one chunk. That means new content, content that a thousand other sites don't have. They might not want all the headaches of hiring their own freelancers & all that messy editing & stuff.
-- but "wordfruit"?? Naaaah.
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: dropdown dropdown (---.mia.three.co.uk)
Date: 07-13-08 16:41
Hi Anthony,
I want to thank you very much for posting that. My response to a lot of the points you bring up would be about my planned market positioning - that stuff isn't super-secret, though at this stage, I'd prefer not to go into it on a public forum - though if you're interested, I'll be more than happy to go into it on email.
The domain name obviously I am happy to talk about here - obviously Wordfruit doesn't register as great with you - I've gone through stages of thinking it's a good name to go with, then changing my mind, though I have asked quite a few people, and generally I get a good reaction - on balance the reaction is, though I haven't actually calculated the percentage, in the region of around 90% people thinking it's a good name for a 'words'/copy related site.
Thanks again for sharing your thoughts. It's all good info for me.
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: dropdown dropdown (---.mia.three.co.uk)
Date: 07-13-08 16:54
Just to say a bit more about my thoughts on using Wordfruit:
I thought about using a non-labelling url, and I decided that though that could be great for once my brand is built, and for expansion in any way, to set out with I thought it would make things more difficult - with Wordfruit, I think people expect something with copy of some description, and so my target market - copywriters and marketeers who need words might be more likely to take a look.
I feel the assistance of a label at the start, rather than launching a non-labelling name, might be significant enough to be worth doing, and I've put some thought into how I might want to develop things beyond the initial stuff I've mentioned, and the name is not too confining for that stuff.
I also hope that the name suggests fruity, lively words - creativity and bearing fruit - money - which is what it's about for both writers and marketeers.
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: dropdown dropdown (---.mia.three.co.uk)
Date: 07-13-08 16:57
that first paragraph in my last post reads really badly.
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: Lily (---.net)
Date: 07-13-08 17:42
WordHarvest
WordCornucopia
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: Kitty Foyle (---.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net)
Date: 07-13-08 19:45
Jordan said, Unless I'm missing something here - Wordfruit sounds pretty darned odd.
Just taking a guess, dropdown, but maybe Jordan was referring to something like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_(slang)
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: Wonky (192.250.49.---)
Date: 07-13-08 21:59
Polar? Makes me think of Bipolar.
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: Wonky (192.250.49.---)
Date: 07-13-08 22:08
Wordfruit makes me think of Fruit of the Loom underwear.
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Author: Kitty Foyle (---.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net)
Date: 07-13-08 22:27
Wordfruit makes me think of my fruity lunches. That is to say, the delicious fresh fruit that I eat at that time. That is to say.... :-)
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: dropdown dropdown (---.mia.three.co.uk)
Date: 07-14-08 02:36
I'm actually not taking that as meaning anything Wonky. I also posted that when I was thinking of using the domain for a different use.
Hi Lily, I didn't see your post about appealing to writers vs marketeers before: I actually don't think I'll be deluged with stuff - not until I get a momentum going with the thing - of course I'd be deluged if I was willing to accept anything, but I won't be willing to. I want the site to serve writers well.
As for the deal for marketeers, to go into that is another thing I don't want to go into on a public forum - though I'm happy to on email.
Thanks again for commments.
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Re: Brainstorming: what do you think of these doma |
Author: dropdown dropdown (---.mia.three.co.uk)
Date: 07-14-08 02:40
btw Anthony, can I ask you why you see Wordfruit as a Naaah?
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