Author: Tim Hooper
Date:   11-18-09 15:12

Why do you want to be published? Is it to be able to say, "Hey look at this book, I wrote it?" Or to be able to boast about being "published" in itself? I hope not. I hope you have not lost focus on what the point is. It should be in the fact that you love to write and you want to share your work with the world. Granted, yes I realize that in order to truly fulfill this you have to make enough money to do it full time. But why should it matter how you get there as long as you get there? Through Traditional Publishing or ePublishing. As long as you can sell enough books to make enough money to do what you love, that is the point. There is a lot of talk about ePublsihing ruining your chances with Traditional Publishers, but whether that is fact or fiction, who cares. Lets remember what the point is.
ePublishing can get you there. eBook sales have gone up 108% each year for the past two years and is said to be headed toward mainstream in the next 4 to 5 years. You truly can make enough money to support yourself as a full time writer. Is it instantaneous? No. But it is doable and for some, it may be their only shot.
Give it some thought!

Author: Gary Kessler
Date:   11-18-09 15:20

Yep, sharing your work with the world is where your paradigm thus far falls flat, Tim. E-booking is coming up in the world. It's still pretty far down there, though, in terms of sharing anything with an actual reader.

Given the choice, 11 out of 10 writers who weren't drunk or drugged (or easily swayed by hype) would still prefer the financial reward and acclaim of traditional print publishing.

We're not all that happy with spam like this on WN, Tim. Pay WN for a real advertisement.

Author: Tim Hooper
Date:   11-18-09 17:54

There is absolutley nothing in the above writing that is an advertisement.

Author: Gary Kessler
Date:   11-18-09 18:40

Yeah, right, Tim.

Author: Laura Mollett
Date:   11-18-09 19:10

Why do you have to put the same thing in all the forums? If you'd just choose an appropriate one and post your message there, it would read less like spam, and be a lot easier for those not interested to skip over. You might even fool a person or two.

Isn't that someone other than your best friend and your mother saw enough value in your work to support it also part of the point? That "some" cannot quite manage that, and self-publishing would be their only shot (even if I'm part of 'some') only increases the value.

Also, being a writer is not the same as being a salesperson. It's not just a matter of getting something in print - to share it with the world, you have to find the world to share it with. Mostly for what your talking about, that's done just the way you're doing it - spamming and annoying people hoping someone (anyone) will listen. No thanks. If you really want to offer something of value, offer the marketing part, *without* an extra charge, the way traditional publishers do.

Author: Tim Hooper
Date:   11-18-09 22:24

We do all the marketing for free. Traditional Publishers do very little. They spend two or three months tops making an effort and then they drop you and move on to one of the other thousands of people trying to get going.

I didn't post in "ALL" forums, I posted in the areas that were related to what I was talking about.

Make no mistake, I am not offering "Self Publishing". I am doing all the work. Publishing, Sales, Promotion, Guidance, and doing it all for free.

I am not selling anything. You can't sell anything that is free.

You guys don't even know what your talking about.

It is sad that you have nothing better to do with your time than to try to tear others down. At least I am making and effort to help someone.

Author: Laura M
Date:   11-19-09 19:10

I read this same post 4 or 5 times. Once, maybe even twice, I could see, but geez. And you've been posting something a couple of times a day or every other day. It's spammy. And probably the kind of "marketing" you're offering as well.

And the more you insist you're giving something away for nothing, the more you sound like a scam artist.

Traditional publishers do quite a lot. In my day job, I'm a production artist (less glorified graphic designer) and I've done the self-employed thing - doing all the marketing, collections, etc. yourself. If I wanted to be a salesperson, I'd have gone to work at a car lot instead of getting a degree. Agenting, marketing and publishing in the art world is worse than the deal for writers. This is one of the few places where having middlemen seems advantageous. I see no reason to minimize their contribution because it's hard to break in.

In any case, I'm sure there are people who would be happy with your services, but I don't see why you have to spam all and sundry to find them.

Author: Anthony Ravenscroft
Date:   11-19-09 20:20

Tim, every time someone such as yourself comes along with yet another retread "publishing revolution," some of us step up & try to treat the poster as a reasonable individual.

I'm staying out of your redundant threads because I've seen it too many times already, & I'd probably just denounce it as (at best) entirely unproven.

Be sure to tell us about all your successes, like the first time one of your authors tops 1,000 sales.

Until then, please realise you're stomping around on thin ice.

Author: L C
Date:   11-21-09 10:40

<< We do all the marketing for free. Traditional Publishers do very little. They spend two or three months tops making an effort and then they drop you and move on to one of the other thousands of people trying to get going. >>

Tim, what is your experience with traditional (I think you mean commercial) publishers that you say this? And when I say "publisher," I don't mean the many now springing up that require authors to show up with a marketing plan and who only POD or ebook. I mean real commercial publishers who get books on retailer shelves.

Author: L C
Date:   11-21-09 10:43

<< Why do you want to be published? Is it to be able to say, "Hey look at this book, I wrote it?" Or to be able to boast about being "published" in itself? I hope not. I hope you have not lost focus on what the point is. It should be in the fact that you love to write and you want to share your work with the world. >>

It is presumptuous for you to tell writers what they "should" want. My goal is to make money. End of story. If I help people out along the way, great. Actually, that's what has to happen, because for anyone to make money, they have to provide value.

While commercial pubs can't guarantee I'll make money, they offer the best shot at it. I'm with one small ub and two major ones, and so far, all three are doing a good job for me.

Author: Richard J. Wilson
Date:   11-22-09 15:11

My first novel was published by PublishAmerica. I will never go through them again for a lot of reasons which I won\'t get in to now. So what would be my best bet for \"self\" publishing? Writers House? iUniverse? Who?

Author: Gary Kessler
Date:   11-22-09 16:56

You can compare the prices and services of various choices at Clea Saal's POD packagers chart at <http//www.booksandtales.com>, Richard, and check out whether they have derogatory information at them at Preditors & Editors at http://anotherealm.com/prededitors/.