Author: Chris Hagler
Date:   10-29-09 16:55

Has anyone got any information about Ink Water Press. Their website seems promising, but I'm trying to be cautious. Any knowledge? I'm giving up the literary agent road, they're either all too involved in what they're doing (don't blame them if their client list is full), or they aren't willing to look at something from a person without a best-seller under their belt.

Any info?

Chris

Author: Jay Milton
Date:   10-29-09 17:41

They only take on authors with a marketing plan.

Author: Butterfly Kisses
Date:   10-30-09 07:59

They're a vanity, Chris. You may consider another route. You know, small pub or university press. Vanity shops are worse than self pubs. I know some people prefer CreateSpace or LuLu. Not that I would choose that route in particular, but, at least, if your work is good enough, you may get noticed and picked up by a larger house. Bear in mind, while that happens, it's also rare.

BK

Author: Butterfly Kisses
Date:   10-30-09 07:59

They're a vanity, Chris. You may consider another route. You know, small pub or university press. Vanity shops are worse than self pubs. I know some people prefer CreateSpace or LuLu. Not that I would choose that route in particular, but, at least, if your work is good enough, you may get noticed and picked up by a larger house. Bear in mind, while that happens, it's also rare.

BK

Author: Butterfly Kisses
Date:   10-30-09 08:00

Sorry for the double post

Author: Jay Milton
Date:   10-30-09 12:09

If its vanity the author pays, I didn't see anything like that on their site.

Author: Cathy C
Date:   10-30-09 21:54

Note the following wording, Jay (and Chris,) from their FAQ page:

"and will be available to bookstores for purchase"

This means the books will not be shelved in stores by the publisher. They are "available" to order through wholesale companies---provided the store knows it exists. Otherwise, readers have to ask for it and the bookstore has to order through whatever wholesale companies the publisher uses. However, it's important to note that many stores, both chain and independent small stores, use a distributor, and that sometimes prevents a store from using secondary sources to order (like wholesalers).

"We can also produce marketing materials, such as postcards, posters, and business cards. "

"Can also produce" is usually code for "at a cost." Note no mention of FREE marketing, which is what commercial publishers do.

"Yes. We have options to rush your publication"

Read: "For an extra fee."

"You can purchase author copies in bulk directly from Inkwater Press. The more copies you order, the higher the discount you receive."

"Our customized plans vary, from the traditional publishing model to author-subsidized publishing."


Here's the author paying part. If: 1) the book isn't shelved in a store; and 2) notification to readers is based on the author marketing the book; then even with a "traditional publishing model" 3) the author is paying.

Does that help with your decision? If you want to use a subsidy press, then at least go with one who already has the ability to get the books to the stores.